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Matt O’Neill’s first Triple-A home run in the eighth proved to be the game winner
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the Torre Baró viewpoint offers one of the best panoramic views of Barcelona and the Collserola mountain range
The triumph of the film The 47th at the last Goya Awards gala has put in the spotlight a neighborhood of Barcelona hitherto unknown to many: Torre Baró
the award-winning film has boosted the popularity of an area away from the bustle of the Ramblas and the coastal side of the city
and where you can find one of the best viewpoints in Barcelona
The Torre Baró viewpoint offers a panoramic view of the Nou Barris district
the Collserola mountain range and the entire city of Barcelona all the way to the Mediterranean Sea
the view itself is a metaphor for the history of the neighborhood
separated from the development of the big city
which from the distance observes the excessive growth of Barcelona
Since the castle was declared historical heritage of the city in 1984
the viewpoint has gained visitors and popularity
but the hordes of tourists that swarm to areas such as Tibidabo or El Carmel do not come here
Those who climb up here can glimpse the districts of Nou Barris, Horta, Sant Andreu and Sant Martí, as well as Besós, Santa Coloma, Sant Adrià and Badalona.
The film El 47 has put the history of the neighborhood struggle of Torre Baró on the map, with a story centered on the symbolic hijacking of a bus by Manolo Vital to denounce the lack of basic services in the neighborhood during the 1970s.
To get by bus to the Torre Baró viewpoint, take bus number 182 in the direction of Torre Baró.
The building responds to the surrounding environment, with a set of starting conditioning factors: the existing building and a great irregular void of complex geometry with considerable topographic unevenness. The new building, in its apparent formal complexity, can be simply summed up as a piece made according to the place’s measurement, built or modeled with what we cannot touch but instead perceive: light-shadow, empty-full, open-closed, warm -cold ...
© Jordi BernadóThe interior furnishings project just reinforces architectural traces.
© Jordi BernadóThe new and the existing are related to each other, with the greatest respect, by analogy and contrast. The use of common materials in extension and reform, both inside and outside, and the use of the same formal and spatial language, have just joined and interrelated the two buildings.
© Jordi BernadóThe intervention also involves the development of the whole environment of the library
with clear pedestrian connectivity improvements
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He served as the Student Government Association (SGA) executive vice president
Baro is the president of Student Ambassadors
acting as the external representative for the organization at all Alumni Association meetings and campus events
and was recognized last fall by Student Center Programs Council (SCPC) as part of this year's Ramblin' Royalty
He is also a member of the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity
Baro will pursue a master's degree at Tech.
He recently reflected on his contributions at Tech and shared advice for students looking to get more involved on campus.
What motivated you to get involved in leadership roles across campus
and how did you decide where to focus your efforts?
I have always loved public service and community as an Eagle Scout and a volunteer
I got involved in SGA because a few mentors at the time had been involved and recommended that I join
I ended up loving the organization and felt that the work I always tried to do in student government focused on having a tangible impact on students' lives — even if it’s just one person versus a multitude
Student Ambassadors allowed me to meet people I would not have met because they are involved in different cultural groups
It provided a perfect environment for people to come together and share their love for Tech
I wanted to give back and make that organization better
My commitment to giving back inspired my involvement.
Can you share a moment during your time at Georgia Tech when you felt particularly proud of the impact you've made?
I felt especially rewarded by last year’s reintroduction and revitalization of the Home for the Holidays program
which had been discontinued because of Covid-19
It connects students staying on campus over Thanksgiving break with hosts who provide holiday meals
Being able to facilitate that was an awesome moment.
What would you say to students who aspire to make a difference at Georgia Tech but may not know where to start?
Attend the organization fair hosted at the beginning of the year
We have 500 to 600 registered organizations
so there is absolutely a place that aligns with some of your interests — a cultural group
You don’t have to be a leader or on an executive board to have an enriching time; you can be a contributing member and love that.
What does being named Ramblin' Royalty mean to you personally and to your journey at Georgia Tech?
I wanted to represent Georgia Tech because I love this school
Georgia Tech has given me a lot of opportunities and introduced me to friends for life that I would have never met otherwise
This recognition is the culmination of my time at Tech.
how do you plan to continue serving and giving back to the Georgia Tech community
both during your time here and after graduation?
I take any opportunity to represent Tech because I find it such an honor to even be considered
Being selected among undergraduate and graduate students by my peers and faculty is a meaningful achievement
so I feel a responsibility to represent Tech as much and as well as I can
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Cuban independent journalist and Nathan Thornburgh talk about their respective arrests in Cuba
Something unusual and even a little hopeful happened in Havana this weekend
There was a rare public protest outside of the Culture Ministry building
actually forced the Cuban government into dialogue about censorship in the country
Not just because its regime is so cynical and self-aware enough of its own rot that it actually punishes people by preventing them from leaving their country
it should scare us also because of people here in the U.S.
people who hate the press as much as any Cuban functionary
Our outgoing administration rails against socialism
while creating their own de facto State news channels and publicly intimidating and discrediting independent media
It is a perfect blueprint for running a country like a Castro
But, maybe, just maybe, better traditions will win out both in the U.S. and in Cuba. Independent journalism has flourished on the island in the past five years, at great risk but with a protozoic zeal for truth and real reporting. Today’s guest sat down with me in on a warm Havana morning just before COVID locked us all down for the rest of the year. Her name is Mónica Baró
and she’s an independent journalist at the vanguard of this movement
reporting the truth in a country that denies its own facts
It’s enough to make you want to sit in and clap
and fight the good fight wherever you live
This is an edited and condensed transcript from my conversation with Monica. You can listen to the full episode, for free, on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify
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say all the important things about Cuba that words
Life in the Cuban town two miles north of the infamous American naval base
an increasing number of men use apps to meet other men
Nathan Thornburgh: How did you get into journalism
I have been writing since I was 10 years old
And I decided to study journalism because I didn’t have too many options once I finished [a technical degree in accounting]
and I didn’t want to go to the countryside to study
I had to try to get to the university [by doing a] special test
A lot of people under 25 do that kind of test if they want to go to university
because you are competing with a lot of people at the same time
And journalism was [an easy choice] in a way
because they have a special test—a general culture test
and also a test showing your writing abilities to write
I decided to study journalism because I wanted to have a university degree
I didn’t have to sacrifice anything to study journalism
but I didn’t know that I wanted to be a journalist
which means that you are not allowed to travel
Thornburgh: What did you think of journalism
You were not really thinking about it then
it was very frustrating because education here in Cuba is very
It’s not focused on making you a more creative person
It’s focused on teaching you how to reproduce something
I had the idea that I wanted to tell stories
but I didn’t have the opportunity of living as a journalist
I was at a state magazine almost two years
and it was a very frustrating experience because I didn’t feel proud of what I was writing
Baró: Bohemia. It’s the oldest magazine Latin America
Baró: In the ’40s and the ’50s
Thornburgh: And it’s now a government magazine that’s not in the business of saying interesting things
Baró: Not in the business of making journalism at all
I learned that I didn’t want to do that kind of journalism
Thornburgh: What more can you ask from a job
God bless Bohemia and all of its lessons for you
because I was at a research center for philosophy
and I was working with local governments as a researcher trying to collaborate and develop a process of participation
a democratic process for changing things in communities
I realized that I was there thinking as a journalist
I wanted to tell everybody about the problems
Thornburgh: That is a very nice distillation of what journalists do
and is that when you decided to do independent journalism
Baró: Yes. At that time, I really didn’t find a project with which I identified. Then Periodismo de Barrio came out
announced it and asked for people to participate and apply
Thornburgh: So the name means neighborhood journalism
most of the time stories are told from the official source’s point of view
So the perspective was to tell stories from the peoples’ points of view
Baró: Yes. It was one of the first independent projects that came out after 14 y Medio
a newspaper [rooted in] Yoani Sanchez’s experience as a blogger
Periodismo de Barrio came from a different experience
because Elaine Diaz was a professor as well as an important blogger at the same time as Yoani Sanchez
and she was a Nieman Fellow at Harvard University
And after her time at Harvard she came back and founded this project—it was the result of the fellowship
October 2015 was the first time we published
Thornburgh: She came back from the Nieman Fellowship at Harvard to start this project which takes
in part thanks to the authorities’ distaste for Yoani Sanchez
I feel the risk of this endeavor pretty strongly
You can’t be here doing independent journalism and thinking about that all the time
and about the risks that I’m taking all the time
Thornburgh: Does that mean always having a bag ready to go
Baró: That means having a security protocol
And that means having your information in safe places
That means that having networks for denouncing any kind of harassment or violence you suffer
That means that you know what to do if something goes wrong
There are a lot of felonies I’m committing as an independent journalist
Thornburgh: And you’re not always nagged by unfinished business or not being prepared
because there’s nothing you can do to avoid it
There’s nothing you can to prevent life from happening
and possible arrest by the subjugating authorities
There are a lot of felonies that I’m committing as an independent journalist
I would have suspected that the laws were not so naked
that it was more just the practice of repressing independent journalism
Baró: The constitution doesn’t recognize independent journalists
because they say that the only media that has the right to exist is the one ruled by the state
you find that [we violate] articles all the time
Thornburgh: You can’t even declare your income
So there’s another [term] here in Cuba
when someone is [at risk of] committing a crime
they could go to jail for one or two years
because the authorities think that you are capable of committing a crime
because for example you don’t have a job
so you are seen as a person vulnerable to committing a crime
So they could use the “dangerous state” term to put you in jail
And then there’s Law 88. It’s related to the U.S. embargo, and states that any journalist or person who publishes something that creates reasons for the U.S. to sustain the embargo could go to jail. That was the law the government used in 2003 during the Black Spring
when 75 people went to jail for doing journalism
Thornburgh: How deeply is this podcast episode violating Law 88
and if you didn’t go to the international press center [to register]
I think that’s why I got arrested last time
we had done something at Time Magazine with Yoani Sanchez
Thornburgh: It’s just a profoundly different experience to face that as an American
So I don’t want to compare our experiences
There are a lot of journalists that ask themselves all the time
What’s the meaning of what I do if nothing changes
I think that my job is to denounce what’s wrong in my society
Everyone who lives in Cuba has thought about leaving the country
Thornburgh: Since we’re breaking some laws
let’s dive right into more law-breaking
A lot of young people are leaving the country
and that’s a loss you cannot get back
You cannot measure how long it will take to recover from something like that
The government is only worried about keeping power in all directions
that’s the biggest problem here in Cuba
Nobody knows how many people have just died trying to leave this country
but a sign that people who see opportunity as something that’s just not going to come here in Cuba is enormous
you could go practice journalism freely in so many places
everyone who lives in Cuba has thought about leaving the country
It’s not possible to find someone here who hasn’t considered that at some point in their life
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is ready for his last run as a Transportation Security Administration (TSA) explosives detection canine who specializes in screening passengers at Pittsburgh International Airport (PIT)
The dog is ready to trade in his working vest for afternoons lounging in bed
TSA held a surprise retirement party for Baro today. He “hit” on a suitcase with an explosive scent and when he did, onlookers showered him with toys and dog treats. See video
Baro is a lovable and hard-working dog who has high energy when sniffing for possible traces of explosives at the airport
he has been accustomed to training regularly and getting rewarded by playing with his large black Kong chew-toy
Now he doesn’t have to wait to play with his favorite toy
he enjoys running in fields and then relaxing in bed
More of that is surely in store for him in retirement.
the first seven years at LaGuardia Airport in New York and more recently
then as a Supervisory Training Instructor before becoming an Explosives Detection Canine Handler in 2017
has such a strong bond with his canine partner that he will officially adopt Baro in retirement
transitioning him from a working dog into a pet so the two will continue to stay together
Baro is retiring because Sharp has been promoted to be the Canine Supervisor at Pittsburgh and the dog is too old to be retrained to work with a different handler
In his role as a supervisor, Sharp will not have another dog, instead he will oversee the other explosives detection canines at PIT who will be screening travelers
During his last week of work at Pittsburgh
Baro was joined by several TSA employees and invited guests to celebrate his retirement at a surprise party
A training aid was concealed in a piece of luggage and Baro and Sharp searched the area
he was rewarded with a ton of dog treats that he didn’t know what to do with (just kidding
Sharp will remove Baro’s “Do Not Pet” patch from his harness
which officially signals that the dog is no longer a working canine and can be petted
TSA trains each of its explosive detection canines at the TSA Canine Training Center
located at Joint Base San Antonio - Lackland in San Antonio
Considered the “Center for Excellence” for explosives detection canine training
the TSA National Explosives Detection Canine Team Program is the Department of Homeland Security’s largest explosives detection canine program
About 300 canines complete the training annually
Each canine recruit spends 16 weeks in training where they meet their handlers
socialize to adapt to busy airport environments
and learn their craft of detecting a variety of explosive odors before reporting to their duty stations
TSA has more than 1,000 canine handler teams deployed in support of security and screening operations nationwide
The explosives detection canine teams inspect passengers and all areas in and around terminals
They are so effective at their jobs that other public and private sector law enforcement agencies often request their support for similar security missions
Each canine and their handler serve as a reliable resource for detecting explosives as well as providing a visible deterrent to terrorism directed towards various types of transportation nodes
these canines work to safeguard passengers and cargo across the nation’s transportation systems
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if you wish to buy anything from the Void Trader
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Take your Blueprints to one of the special kiosks located in the Concourse area of the Relays
and you’ll be able to convert them directly into Ducats
it’s time to track down Baro Ki’Teer to see what he’s selling
Unlike some videogame vendors, Baro Ki’Teer doesn’t sell his various rare artifacts and valuable items all the time. Likewise, unlike someone like Xur in Destiny, he doesn’t arrive every week with new stock to sell. Surprisingly, Baro Ki’Teer will only make an appearance in Warframe every two weeks.
Baro Ki’Teer always arrives on a Friday, and normally at 2pm GMT across all platforms. When Baro Ki’Teer does eventually arrive, he’ll be found on the Concourse of various Tenno Relays, but only for 48 hours until he departs once again.
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Despite a benign ATIS report of visibility 10 kilometers with a ceiling of 1,500 feet broken
the aircraft flew in instrument conditions of heavy rain and moderate turbulence for the entire approach to minimums
In a chilling combination of nonstandard circumstances exacerbated by a critical human error
the aircraft flew the entire approach 280 feet lower than the crew believed
the aircraft descended to within 6 feet of the ground
narrowly missing contact with a road and field outside the airport perimeter
as it shines a light on a latent threat present in a less-common type of instrument approach
a threat not properly appreciated by many pilots
The approach in question is an RNAV (GPS) (FAA terminology)/RNP (ICAO terminology for the same approach) approach flown with vertical guidance provided by barometric vertical navigation (baro-VNAV)
Typically flown to LNAV/VNAV minimums presented as a decision altitude (DA)
rather than as a minimum descent altitude (MDA)
these baro-VNAV approaches look like and are flown as an ILS or an RNAV (GPS)/RNP approach utilizing satellite-based augmentation systems (SBAS) flown to LPV minimums
The flight decks of modern turbine aircraft use baro-VNAV guidance during final approach to DA when SBAS is not available
Whether because of loss of signal because of jamming or a temporary satellite outage
or because the aircraft is flying outside the geographical area covered by SBAS systems (SBAS satellites are geostationary
meaning they do not move with respect to a point on the Earth’s surface)
the flight deck can “fail down” to baro-VNAV guidance if SBAS is lost
or plan to use baro-VNAV when the approach is loaded if determined to be outside SBAS reception
A critical difference exists between a baro-VNAV approach and an ILS or SBAS-aided RNAV (GPS)/RNP approach—the source of the vertical guidance displayed during the approach
While all three approaches utilize a vertical deviation indicator (VDI) that can be coupled to an autopilot
each is using a different source of raw information converted into the graphic VDI display
the glideslope: a radio signal broadcast from an antenna located to the side of the touchdown zone
The VDI displays the aircraft’s location above or below the center of the glideslope signal
using the wide area augmentation system [WAAS] found in North America) to LPV minimums
the VDI displays the aircraft’s GPS-altitude deviation from the computed glide path
While an ILS and SBAS-aided approach use different sources to drive the VDI
neither is dependent on the aircraft’s altimeter system for computing and displaying VDI information
Here is where the baro-VNAV approach critically differs
the VDI is displaying the difference between the aircraft’s current barometric altitude (as shown on the altimeter) and the ideal center of the calculated glide path
The difference is small but critical—any error in altimetry will result in the aircraft showing a centered VDI when
the aircraft is not on the center of the desired glidepath
on initial contact with the approach controller the crew received instruction to descend below the transition level of 70 and was given an incorrect altimeter setting of 1011 hPA
which was correctly indicated on the current ATIS
was 1001 hPA; the difference of 10 hPA (roughly the same as 0.3 inches of mercury) caused the aircraft to be a constant 280 feet lower than indicated on the altimeters
while flying the final approach with a centered VDI the aircraft was also 280 feet lower than the actual center of the glidepath
As the published minimums were 360 feet above the touchdown zone elevation (TDZE)
combined with normal altitude loss during the transition to a go-around
resulted in the additional 74 feet of altitude loss that left the aircraft only 6 feet from ground contact
As is the case with many events that culminate in an accident or incident
this near miss was the result of multiple factors lining up in a way that allowed the danger to build
The aircraft was flying a baro-VNAV approach only because the ILS was out of service and the airplane was not equipped for SBAS approaches
Runway 27R has a very bright and extensive approach lighting system necessitated by its Category III ILS capability
but the lights were turned off because of the relatively good weather officially reported by the ATIS
An automated altitude alert was triggered at the tower controller’s station as the aircraft passed through 200 feet agl while 1.5 nautical miles from the runway
but the controller did not relay the message to the crew for nine seconds
during which the aircraft descended another 80 feet
and of no small significance to pilots who consider it an infallible guard against the type of controlled flight into terrain accident NSZ Flight 4311 nearly became
the aircraft’s terrain avoidance and warning system (TAWS) never alerted the crew that they were about to strike the ground nearly a mile from the runway threshold
While the French Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA) is still investigating the behavior of the TAWS system as it conducts the investigation into NSZ 4311
it is an intended feature of TAWS systems that they become increasingly less sensitive to terrain proximity as an airport is approached
nuisance TAWS alerts would be common during approaches
leading to a desensitization of flight crews to the alerts—a problem of its own
the United Kingdom’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) published the eerily prescient safety notice SN-2019/001
entitled “Risk of Controlled Flight into Terrain during 3D BARO-VNAV and 2D approaches.” The notice
published to “draw attention to the risk of Controlled Flight into Terrain (CFIT) when flying instrument approach operations with the pressure altimeter sub-scale set to an incorrect pressure setting,” observes that “Terrain Awareness Warning System (TAWS) may not provide a ground proximity warning (i.e
‘pull up’ alert) close to an aerodrome when the aircraft is in the landing configuration.” The diagram below perfectly foreshadowed the actual flight path and near-impact point of NSZ 4311
and near misses is of little value without actionable takeaways
The first line of defense against a similar future event crossing from near miss into outright accident is an increase in pilot awareness of the extent to which baro-VNAV approaches are subject to a single point of failure
While the pilots of NSZ Flight 4311 stated they conducted altitude-distance checks on final
these checks would have been of no assistance
as the incorrect altimeter setting would have similarly affected this double check
the single error of an incorrect altimeter setting rendered the normal defenses of the crew unproductive
This fact seems to have been under-emphasized even in Airbus’ written procedures
The BEA noted: “The flight crew operational documentation regarding a RNP approach with LNAV/VNAV minima mentions the risks of the cockpit altimeters having different settings
but it does not specifically mention the risk of having the same incorrect QNH setting on both altimeters
there is no dedicated item concerning a specific cross-check of the QNH with another source of information such as the ATIS or METAR
or confirmation of the QNH with ATC.”
This last note speaks to a critical operating practice pilots flying a baro-VNAV approach must make standard
Recognizing that the success of the approach is contingent upon a valid altimeter setting
redundancy should be introduced into setting QNH
Merely hearing and confirming a spoken QNH from a controller is clearly inadequate
as it was the proximate cause of the NSZ Flight 4311 near miss
receipt and cross check of two independently received altimeter settings should be considered mandatory—the QNH read to the crew by ATC directly compared to a previously received ATIS
or to a METAR received over satellite weather
it should be noted that the aircraft’s radar altimeter—if it is equipped with one—is a last line of defense against this type of event
the pilot monitoring should cross check the indicated radar altitude against the anticipated height above touchdown zone elevation
While some variance is acceptable because of uneven terrain or buildings on short final
a difference of hundreds of feet between radar altitude and expected height would be cause for an immediate go-around
These mitigating steps should be briefed by the pilots during the approach briefing
calling attention to the unique hazards present in this relatively uncommon approach
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It’s the nicest Suunto watch I’ve used yet
but it has one significant blemish that I hope will be fixed in a future firmware update
Suunto launched its fifth-generation GPS watch series with the Suunto 9 in June 2018
It expanded the family in September with the Suunto 9 Baro
which was sent to me for review several months before its release
The Suunto 9 retails for $500; the Suunto 9 Baro is $600
Nearly everything I say about the Suunto 9 Baro will also apply to the Suunto 9
The Suunto 9 Baro is a legitimate flagship product—it improves upon or rivals the performance and features of previous generations
it has also taken over Suunto’s flagship price point.) It’s the most accurate and richly featured watch in Suunto’s line
The Suunto 9 Baro looks nearly identical to the Suunto Spartan
Thankfully, Suunto made one physical change to the Suunto 9 Baro: the silicone band. The band on the Spartan Sport Wrist HR was grabby and excessively pliable
arm hair) and collect lint; it also would not slide easily through its retention loops
The band on the Suunto 9 Baro addresses those issues and is notably more comfortable than the stiffer Ambit3 band
I’d like to see its “top” section perforated
The new band can be easily swapped with third-party options to dress it up or give it more style
and 120-hours when the GPS reading is set to one-
This is substantially better than optical heart rate–equipped Spartan watches
it’s even better than the Ambit3 Peak
Do those five extra hours of battery life matter
for me it would make a big difference: I’ve completed five 100-mile ultras since 2015
and my finish times have all been between 20:12 and 24:44
I’ve had to set the GPS interval to five seconds
Suunto has always allowed users to extend the battery life by adjusting the GPS ping interval
but it had to be done using the Movescount website or app
and it used to require a sync afterward; the setting was also specific to a sport mode
The Suunto 9 Baro’s ping interval can be adjusted online
or directly on the watch before the start of an activity
The ping interval is part of a bunch of battery-saving adjustments
Suunto describes these grouped settings as:
This on-watch adjustment is convenient and could save the day if you forget to update your settings or charge your watch prior to an activity
the Suunto 9 Baro is at least as accurate as the Ambit3 Peak when its GPS ping interval is set to one second
Recorded distances match those of my established runs
(I have yet to complete a marked course with the Suunto 9 Baro.)
but it sounds like competing straps have their own issues.)
The Suunto 9 Baro’s optical heart rate sensor should be sufficient for casual activities and users
it sounds like that’s generally the case
The heart rate readings seem accurate when my arm is mostly still
like when I’m sleeping or waiting for the watch to connect with GPS satellites immediately before a run
the HR readings are rarely accurate and thus largely worthless
I don’t have an explanation for this
and I have not found a solution (besides wearing my chest strap when I want HR data)
I suspect it may relate to the size of my wrist (6.75 inches) or how I position or tighten the watch
The Suunto 9 Baro offers basic smartwatch and activity tracking features
the Suunto 9 Baro falls short of the Garmin Fenix 5
It’s not crucial that I can control my music selection through my watch
that I know how many flights of stairs I’ve climbed in a day
or that I can download new watch faces in an online store
a clunky GPS sports watch will still look like
Eighty “sport modes” are preinstalled on the Suunto 9 Baro
Each mode displays data that Suunto thought would be relevant for an activity
one preinstalled running mode is called “Interval,” and its description says
Use the lap table view to compare intervals with duration
This mode stores the run with the Move type ‘interval’ so you can follow your progress over time.”
These modes may be helpful for someone unwilling to dig into the functionality of the Suunto 9 Baro
(Dare I ask: If you spend $500-plus on a watch
why aren’t you digging into its functionality?)
Custom sport modes would seem to be a workaround; however
these modes are limited to just four display screens
one of which must be dedicated to a breadcrumb navigation track
so essentially Suunto has given me only three screens to display all the data I want
Why did Suunto limit the number of custom sport mode screens to four
especially when its preinstalled modes have up to six and the Ambit3 Peak allows up to eight
And who at Suunto thought three screens was enough
It’s the most significant flaw of the Suunto 9 Baro
How does the Suunto 9 compare to other popular GPS sport watches
These two watches differ in just one respect: The 9 Baro has a built-in sensor to measure barometric pressure and to help generate altitude readings
The original Suunto 9 cannot display barometric pressure and relies solely on GPS to calculate altitude
which will be less accurate if GPS strength is low (like when you’re running under heavy tree cover)
The barometer becomes helpful in two situations:
If these situations don’t sound relevant to you
For a more in-depth explanation of baro versus non-baro watches, read this
The Ambit3 was Suunto’s third-generation GPS watch series
The most recent Ambit3 product was released in early 2016
and the last firmware update was released in December 2016
Suunto still produces the Ambit3 Peak and Ambit3 Vertical but has discontinued the Ambit3 Sport and Ambit3 Run (although it’s still liquidating inventory)
Between the Ambit3 Peak and Ambit3 Vertical, I preferred the Peak. (Read my long-term review.) Its battery was longer-lasting
The Vertical was more svelte and had vibration alarms
The Spartan was Suunto’s fourth-generation GPS watch series and was last expanded in September 2017 with the Spartan Sport Wrist HR Baro (my review)
the Suunto 9 Baro matches or exceeds the Spartan watches
The major exception is price—Suunto currently lists the Spartan Sport HR Baro for $440
and I’m sure it’s available for less elsewhere
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According to a source
the Mets have signed eighth round pick Boston Baro to a $700,000 signing bonus
Baro played this season at Capistrano Valley High School in Mission Viejo
Ewing has said he will sign with the Mets, along with prep third baseman Jake Zitella (16th) round
though neither of them has officially signed yet
At 6-foot-2, Baro has a narrow and athletic frame with a loose, easy left-handed swing that reminds some of former SoCal prep standout Brice Turang
sees the ball well and doesn’t swing and miss much
there should be more impact — the one part of his offensive game in question — in the future
Baro will record average to above-average run times now
but that added strength should help him be faster as he matures
He should also improve his arm strength over time and that
gives him a very nice shortstop starter kit
The Mets’ total signing bonus pool for the 2023 draft is $8,440
and Houck is expected to get more than his slot value of $2,607,500
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The comeback kids! Once down 6-0, the Mets rally to take a 7-6 lead on Boston Baro's two-out, two-run single in the 7th! pic.twitter.com/Pw0fJzKQCs
Mets draft pick Boston Baro says he's already had Joe's Pizza three times since being drafted by the Mets 😂 pic.twitter.com/s7LgTgx5zk
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On the other end of the spectrum are the late-round success stories that
The Dodgers famously selected Mike Piazza in the 62nd round
Martinez went in the 36th (2006) and 20th (2009) rounds
are what can make or break a Draft for scouting directors constantly in search of the next Christian Scott (fifth round)
Jacob deGrom (eighth round) or Jeff McNeil (12th)
The comeback kids! Once down 6-0, the Mets rally to take a 7-6 lead on Boston Baro's two-out, two-run single in the 7th! pic.twitter.com/Pw0fJzKQCs
Perhaps Boston Baro can be that sort of piece for the Mets
The organization’s eighth-round selection last July
with a .307/.369/.480 slash line since May 9
One scout who recently saw Baro compared him to a young McNeil
given his excellent left-handed bat control and defensive versatility
has also played second and third base during his fledgling professional career
He can kind of manipulate it,” Mets vice president of player development Andy Green said
“There’s an athleticism to him that’s going to bounce around the field very well
And he’s got that kind of Southern California relaxed vibe going through Minor League baseball
He’s just learning along the way and playing hard along the way.”
his dad is a native New Englander who wanted to name his son after his favorite city
By the time Baro visited Citi Field late last summer after signing
he had already set aside his childhood affinity for the Red Sox and become
the Mets signed him to a well-over-slot bonus of $700,000 to lure him away from a commitment to UCLA
Mets draft pick Boston Baro says he's already had Joe's Pizza three times since being drafted by the Mets 😂 pic.twitter.com/s7LgTgx5zk
Now a notable prospect who ranks at No. 25 on MLB Pipeline’s Top 30 Mets Prospects list
Baro is working to prove he can become a bona fide big leaguer
The scout who compared him to McNeil was among several to question Baro’s power ceiling
Baro still has plenty of time to pack muscle onto his 6-foot
It’s going to be fun to watch his evolution
Triple-A Syracuse: Put Luke Ritter firmly in the “not much left to prove in the Minors” crowd
Ritter has hit four home runs in his past 10 games to improve his season OPS to .871
who might have received a callup last year if not for a late-season oblique injury
remains blocked at all the infield positions he plays -- first
But he’ll have to be a consideration if and when that situation changes
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Double-A Binghamton: Starting pitching prospect Brandon Sproat (No. 13 prospect) didn’t need much -- read: any -- time to adjust to the upper Minors
Since Sproat earned a promotion from High-A Brooklyn on May 13
all he’s done is go undefeated with a 1.38 ERA over four starts
striking out 32 percent of the batters he’s faced
Sproat, who can credit at least some of that success to his continued development of a sweeper, has also cut his walk rate by more than 50 percent at Binghamton. Kenny Van Doren wrote more about Sproat following his most recent outing, the first double-digit strikeout performance of his career.
High-A Brooklyn: A hot prospect around this time last year, outfielder Stanley Consuegra fell out of the Mets’ Top 30 following a middling season at Brooklyn. He’s repeating the level at age 23 and has recently caught fire, batting .327/.441/.796 over his last 14 games. Still young enough to rebound, Consuegra is doing what he can to reestablish his standing within the farm system.
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The new movie 'El 47', directed by Catalan film director Marcel Barrena, tells the story of the social struggle in the neighborhood of Torre Baró, in Barcelona, and how this area, located in the hills of the city, finally got a bus line.
The story in the film is set in the 1970s, and since then, much effort has gone into improving the neighborhood of Torre Baró, which began with some shantytowns.
However, residents of the neighborhood feel that some things "haven't changed much" since the events depicted in the film, as the Torre Baró Neighbors Association still has to protest over certain basic needs that they consider to be "the minimum for a neighborhood."
Their latest demands to the city council concern electricity and the power outages the area has been suffering.
Street lights frequently go out in the neighborhood due to cable thefts: "Thieves take advantage of the fact that there are no nearby houses affected, and they steal the street light cables. We’ve been asking the city council to bury the cables underground for years because the cables keep getting stolen after they’re replaced," José Antonio Martínez, a resident of Torre Baró, told Catalan News.
José Manuel Romero, who has lived in Torre Baró for many years, doesn’t understand why the city council and the electric company Endesa refuse to invest in this: "It’s a waste of money. But because Endesa has an insurance policy that covers it, they don’t care. And all we can do is complain because we’re left without light," José Manuel argues.
There was also a period when power outages affected many houses and disrupted the lives of the residents.
José Antonio explains that between 2020 and 2021, frequent outages were caused by a malfunctioning power transformer. This caused major problems for people who needed a reliable electricity supply, such as José Antonio’s mother, who required an oxygen machine that had to be plugged in at all times.
"But it wasn’t just my mother. Other neighbors who used electric beds that helped them were also affected by this. Without basic maintenance, people who depended on electricity were left without essential services their lives depended on," José Antonio emphasizes.
After many complaints to the city council, the power transformer was eventually replaced. But the problems in Torre Baró do not end there.
For 10 years, a two-story parking garage near the health center has remained closed. Residents continue to demand its opening and for the city council to manage its operations.
"People visiting the health center would use it a lot, as would those taking the train from here. Right now, people have to park on the sidewalk," José Antonio Martínez points out.
Despite the ongoing protests and activism in Torre Baró, José Antonio believes that "in the 1990s, the city council created more bureaucracy, which has resulted in less direct action from residents."
José Manuel also thinks part of the problem is that fewer people are getting involved: "It’s always the same group that comes together to demonstrate and organize actions."
"We need everyone to get fully involved and fight like we did in the past," José Manuel concludes.
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Can Baró's local residents maintain that it was in their neighbourhood that Barcelona’s first tiger mosquitoes were seen
when it came to choosing a festival beast for the Fures de Can Baró devils
the group opted for this species of mosquito which is especially fat and famous for its bites
The craft worker Eloi Martín was commissioned with constructing the beast in 2012 but it did not make its debut until two years later: for the neighbourhood's big annual festival in 2014
The truly spectacular mosquito figure has thirty-three fire points distributed along its legs
The Tiger Mosquito has the unique feature of being able to light up its fangs
and its most representative event is the Mosquitada de Can Baró
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RNAV GPS (aRea NAVigation) stand-alone instrument approaches have become commonplace as GPS and the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS) hit the mainstream
Virtually all GPS approaches require an RNP (Required Navigational Performance) of 0.3
which means an aircraft tracking the final approach course with a centered needle can be expected to be within 0.3 nm of the centerline 95 percent of the time
Some RNAV units use DME cross referencing (DME/DME) to achieve RNP 0.3
Certain RNAV (GPS) approaches are not available to these type units as the airplane could be beyond the service volume of a necessary DME facility
LNAV (Lateral NAVigation) (aka GPS NPA) — A nonprecision approach that uses GPS and/or WAAS for LNAV
Lateral sensitivity does not increase as the aircraft gets closer to the runway
Pilots may use a WAAS-enabled GPS for LNAV
When the aircraft reaches the final approach fix
the pilot descends to a minimum descent altitude (MDA) using the onboard barometric altimeter (aka “dive and drive”)
LP (Localizer Performance) — Nonprecision WAAS-mandatory approach
Lateral-only WAAS guidance found at locations where terrain or obstructions prevent vertically guided LPV procedures
Typically use barometric altimeter data for descent to MDA
Lateral sensitivity increases as the aircraft gets closer to the runway (or point in space for helicopters)
LP is not a fail-down mode for LPV — LP and LPV are independent
LP will not be published with lines of minimums that contain approved vertical guidance (i.e.
LP is the GPS equivalent of a localizer approach
Older WAAS receivers may not contain LP capability unless the receiver has been upgraded
LP minimums are published only if they provide lower minimums than LNAV
APV (APproach with Vertical Guidance) — An instrument approach based on a navigation system that is not required to meet the precision approach standards of ICAO Annex 10 but provides course and glidepath deviation information
aka L/VNAV (Lateral NAVigation/Vertical NAVigation) — Horizontal and approved vertical guidance to the LNAV/VNAV line of minimums
Vertical guidance is provided either by WAAS or approach-certified baro-VNAV systems
LNAV/VNAV approaches are flown to a decision altitude rather than MDA
Decision altitude is the altitude at which you’re supposed to look out the window and contemplate if you’re going to land or go around — while you continue to descend — rather quickly
If your airplane depends on baro-VNAV (barometric Vertical NAVigation) instead of WAAS for VNAV
you may be restricted by temperature from using the (sometimes) lower VNAV minimums
Example: Baro-VNAV NA below negative 15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit) or above 47 degrees Celsius (117 degrees Fahrenheit)
Pilots must adhere to temperature limitations unless employing temperature compensation under an authorization from ATC
Some LNAV/VNAV minimums are higher than LNAV minimums
LNAV+V — LNAV approach plus advisory Vertical guidance
If you see LNAV+V displayed on your WAAS unit’s annunciator
you may fly the glideslope to the LNAV MDA
LNAV+V is not the same as LNAV/VNAV or LPV
Pilots must use the barometric altimeter to meet all altitude restrictions
“LNAV+V” is not listed on a chart
it may appear when you load the approach if the GPS is compatible
The advisory glideslope does not always ensure obstacle clearance
LPV (Localizer Performance with Vertical guidance) — Offers the lowest minimums of all GPS approaches but are technically still considered nonprecision approaches (i.e.
Requires a WAAS receiver in the airplane and can have minimums as low as 200 feet agl and half-mile visibility with proper approach and runway lighting
Lateral sensitivity increases as the aircraft gets closer to the runway
which gets increasingly sensitive and difficult to fly near and below DA
the LPV course transitions to linear scaling 700 feet wide at the threshold (same as ILS) but then doesn’t get any tighter
They are the operational equivalent of a legacy ILS and are flown to a DA
but are far more economical because no navigation infrastructure is needed at the airport
Several thousand LPV approaches are in use today
many at airports that previously did not have an ILS
As stated in the Instrument Airplane ACS (FAA-S-ACS-8
when taking a flight test or performing an IPC
an LPV with a DA greater than 300 feet HAT may be used as a nonprecision approach
LPV minimums can be used to demonstrate a precision approach if the DA is equal to or less than 300 feet HAT
Always ensure that the WAAS channel number and ID displayed on the GPS match the WAAS numbers listed at the top of the approach chart
Here’s what all those acronyms really mean:
GBAS augments GPS and provides corrections to aircraft to improve GPS navigation for approaches
LAAS was the term initially used by the FAA
which has since migrated to the ICAO term GBAS
GLS is the FAA’s official term for a GBAS approach (e.g.
so GBAS datalinks must be supported by compatible avionics in the aircraft
Pilots select a five-digit GBAS channel number within the FMS menu (or manually)
Currently in use by several airlines at Newark
Houston and many other locations around the world
Stand-alone GPS — Older nonprecision approach format
It is being replaced with a newer format prefaced by the acronym RNAV
aka RNP AR — Required Navigation Performance with Authorization Required (AC 90-101)
Special authorization from the FAA is required for these approaches
aka RNP SAAAR (Special Aircraft and Aircrew Authorization Required)
WAAS units are designed to evaluate the lowest minimums possible based on meeting required horizontal and vertical limits
The approach mode annunciator on the unit will notify you of which minimums you may use
and LNAV/VNAV (without baro-VNAV) approaches
Approved vertical guidance is available on LNAV/VNAV minimums
and existed before the WAAS system was certified
only aircraft equipped with a flight management system and certified baro-VNAV systems could use the LNAV/VNAV minimums
LNAV/VNAV minimums may be flown using approved GPS WAAS receiver equipment
is an integrity augmentation that allows a GPS system to use a nonsatellite input source (e.g.
pitot-static system) to provide vertical reference
aka baro-VNAV — Uses approach-certified barometric altitude info from the pitot-static system and air data computer to compute vertical guidance (large aircraft)
RNAV approaches normally list several approach minimums to ensure as many aircraft as possible can fly the approach and provide operational flexibility if WAAS becomes unavailable
Aircraft with standard GPS receivers (or WAAS) can fly to the LNAV MDA
Aircraft with GPS and approach-certified Baro-VNAV can fly to LNAV/VNAV decision altitude (DA)
If for some reason WAAS becomes unavailable
all GPS or WAAS-equipped aircraft revert to the LNAV decision altitude
Alternates — When using TSO-C129 and TSO-C196 (non-WAAS) GPS equipment at an alternate
authorized users may file based on a GPS-based IAP at either the destination or the alternate airport
When using TSO-C145 and TSO-C146 (WAAS) equipment at an alternate airport
planning must be based on flying the LNAV or circling minimum line
or conventional procedure with “or GPS” in the title
LNAV/VNAV or LPV may be used to complete the approach
WAAS users with authorized baro-VNAV may plan for LNAV/VNAV DA
Any onboard computer-generated glideslope requires WAAS
except for those GPS units certified with baro-VNAV
which will allow descent to LNAV/VNAV minimums
LNAV/VNAV identifies APV minimums developed to accommodate an RNAV IAP with vertical guidance
but with lateral and vertical integrity limits larger than a precision approach or LPV
Note: FAA regulations could change at any time
Please refer to current FARs to ensure you are legal
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Tracks an exceptional amount of data in the Movescount platform
Can accurately identify and track over eighty different sports
Barometric altimeter accurately measures elevation
Water-resistant to up to 300 feet.TIREDToo darn big
Needs a better phone app.On a powder day in January
I went snowboarding to test the Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR Baro
My friend noticed that I was checking the time on my phone in the lift line
“Aren’t you supposed to be testing a watch?” she said
“It’s easier to just get my phone out of my jacket.”
“That better make it into the review,” she said
It's hard to write that because I liked the watch so much
It has a gleaming steel bezel with a gorgeous
mineral glass touchscreen display that tracks the motions of over eighty different sports
and offers stats and training suggestions on each
It looks and feels exactly like the sophisticated
But after a few weeks of wearing it while hiking
The Spartan HR Baro is the latest version of the Suunto Spartan HR
The barometric altimeter is a much more accurate tool with which to measure elevation changes
a function at which GPS trackers have been notoriously awful
SuuntoIt took two hours for the watch to charge completely
The battery lasted for several days of regular hour-long hikes or workouts
but it could vary tremendously depending on the activity
Five hours’ worth of snowboarding ran down the battery to 25 percent in one day
You do have to set your reference altitude
as barometers fall when low-pressure systems are coming in
which is all the time in places like Portland
Suunto does suggest checking your reference points frequently
An accurate altimeter is a particularly nice thing to have if you are a mountain person versus an ocean person
You need to track your elevation changes a lot more while climbing and skiing than you do with open water swimming
But the real draw of the Suunto sportwatches is the Suunto Movescount platform. You can track a dizzying array of sports, and more are coming online all the time. I met Suunto digital director Heikki Norta at CES 2018
who remarked that it's a priority to develop custom "moves" for every different sport
Eighty sports are currently available on the watch
with more customizable on the Movescount app
“Each [sport] has its own passionate community of enthusiasts,” said Norta
I could track twenty-seven different stats
to my excess post-exercise oxygen consumption (EPOC)
I could plot each data set out on the other
to see heart rate against speed against altitude
That’s in addition to the map and route tracker
or literally follow a breadcrumb trail back to where you started
you can also select "Find Back" and a blue arrow will direct you to where you activated the GPS
As the possessor of the world's most cockeyed internal compass
the Find Back feature was invaluable to me
In addition to a barometer and host of other sensors
the Spartan HR Baro also has an optical blood flow measurement sensor to track your heart rate
bright green light on the base of the watch
You wear the watch higher up on your wrist and cinch the wrist strap for the best results
You can also purchase the watch with an optional heart rate measurement belt. If heart rate is a very important stat for you, I suggest doing so. I’m a pretty cool customer, but there’s just no way that my resting heart rate is 44 beats per minute. The watch would occasionally slip and bathe me in the bright green lights of a Matrix disco rave when I was trying to fall asleep or hold one of my kids
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There are other factors that make the watch a little annoying to use for your ordinary
I scrolled through the list of exercise activities and selected it—”climbing”
I pulled my sleeve over the watch and found that I’d inadvertently touched the screen and prematurely ended my “move.” I started locking the screen
but then I’d have to unlock it to check the time
I also found myself pulling out my phone to check notifications
The watch can receive and show texts and other alerts
try snowboarding while in a lively group text
your wrist constantly buzzing with no way to respond
Dante could never have imagined such a punishment
I didn't pull out my phone to check the Movescount app
Movescount is incredibly helpful—logging 30-day training plans
and exporting data to Strava and other workout platforms—on the phone
It only shows a few select pieces of data for each sport
The phone app is mainly for logging data like your feelings
which gets taken into account when assessing recovery plans
It’s pretty easy to scroll through your workout logbook on the watch
There was so many things to love about the watch
I liked being able to choose between different colors and watch faces
and it was easy to swipe through the watch to find what I was looking for
I liked using Movescount to trace my routes and check my heart rate on different climbing routes
the Find Back navigation feature could literally save your life
I had a hard time getting it in and out of my jacket sleeves and I kept knocking the heart rate monitor off my skin
I smacked myself in the face with it while I was sleeping
I found myself taking it off more and more often
Paul Bunyan-type with wrists like tree trunks
whose ability to track elevation changes and trace routes is what will keep yourself and others alive
this watch would be the perfect pick for you
It’s worth noting that the Suunto watches have a loyal following among the professional and amateur alpine enthusiasts that I know
They put in another reason for me to go back and spend more money?”
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Let’s get something out of the way right up front: The Suunto 9 is the Suunto Spartan V2
Except Suunto changed the naming system this go around – and now it’s called Suunto 9
if you’re looking for Suunto’s top-dog watch
Despite the significant shift in naming though (for the better)
think of the Suunto 9 as more an evolutionary update to the Suunto Spartan series
Aside from the addition of the optical heart rate sensor (which Suunto had placed in other units anyway)
the only three other major changes at present are related to battery life
four if you count the new universal band straps – allowing you to use any strap you find on the interwebs with it
But that doesn’t mean Suunto isn’t doing more behind the scenes on their mobile app and website – as they certainly are
It’s just that those changes don’t fit well on the back of the box
they require a bunch of text to try and explain
Thus how you end up with a 9,774 word review
you can watch this much shorter video instead – which summarizes all the new features and then some
I flew to them and picked it up myself) a final production Suunto 9 unit as a loaner
I’ve been using it since May on a wide variety of workouts
After I’m done with it here I’ll go ahead and put it back in a box and ship it back to them (I probably won’t fly it back over since that cost me a small pile of money last time)
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If you’ve seen a Suunto Ambit/Spartan box in the past
Apparently the company bought enough boxes to last until next century (only the sleeves change for each product)
I didn’t get the final sleeve with mine back in May
the Suunto 9 charging cable (same as the Suunto Spartan series)
they continue to get more minimalist with what’s inside it – and this is no different
I don’t think anyone really needs another USB wall charger anyway
Here’s a look at how things size up compared to the existing Suunto Spartan Ultra
as a quick refresher of what’s new in the Suunto 9 compared to the Suunto Spartan series
I’ll cover all these in plenty of detail throughout this review
but just in case you’re scrolling through
the above list is probably what you’re looking for
Normally I start this section with the watch face
but I’m going to get all crazy and mix it up this time
We’re gonna start with the watch band instead
What’s unique or notable about this watch band
previously on the Suunto Spartan and Ambit series watches you couldn’t swap out the band for bands you wanted (except the Spartan Baro)
Suunto has adopted the industry standard 24mm watch bands
so you can go onto Amazon and order whatever the heck you want
No, really, there’s some crazy stuff you can order that should fit:
I say ‘should fit’ because while it almost always does, there’s always a small element of hope when it comes to watch straps/bands and them actually fitting. But again, should work. [Update: Commentor Renton below noted that the key to finding ones that work is to ensure the spring bar heads is 1.4mm and not the more common 0.8mm – the bar itself is 2.0mm
you’ll notice that optical heart rate (HR) sensor on there
This unit contains Valencell’s latest sensor
version 1.2 That means that Suunto actually has a bunch more that they can do in terms of biometrics down the road if they wanted to via firmware updates
it’s in there – but that does require software be written around it and then software on apps and websites to support it as well
For now though the sensor simply tracks your heart rate
it’ll power on and track you second by second
The second is during 24×7 (continuous) mode
In this mode it’s not technically continuous at every 1-second
it turns on every 10-minutes and tracks then
Sometimes a bit more frequently it seems as well
It’ll stay on till it gets a HR reading locked
which is a slight change from the past where if it didn’t get a HR reading to lock it just gave up (and thus you got gaps in your charts)
You can see your HR readings via the heart rate widget on the watch by simply swiping down from the watch-face
You can then swipe to the right to see your heart rate over the last 12 hours:
Note that this 24×7 HR data isn’t saved anywhere beyond the watch
it rather disappointingly doesn’t get transferred to either of the two Suunto platforms
let’s back up a little bit to that watch face I mentioned earlier before I got all wild and crazy
Suunto allows you to pick from a handful of watch faces that they’ve built
Unlike most other watches these days you can’t customize them or make your own
With the Suunto 9 though you do get a new watch face
This watch face shows you total workout time towards your weekly workout goal along the other edge
It also shows battery life at the bottom too
It doesn’t show daily steps or current HR either though
like many other watch faces on other watches do these days
those are accessed in the same way as HR – just by swiping down on the screen
From there you can also view your total steps per week as well
Calories can be accessed from the exact same menu by simply taping the screen:
If you continue swiping down you’ll get training status
which gives you total training time that week as well as recovery time
The training time is shown against your weekly exercise goal
while recovery time is shown as remaining hours until you’re fresh and ready to get frisky
A bit further down you’ll also get the altimeter and temperature data
as well as 12-hours variants of the altimeter and barometer data:
The altimeter can be manually adjusted through the settings if need be
Lastly within the main dashboard pages in terms of data
The unit will track sleep (assuming you wear it to bed)
It doesn’t need to be manually started or stopped
You can also specify a secondary do-not-disturb time for notifications
The unit will provide some basic details of sleep within the watch itself
as well as via the newer Suunto app (but not the older Movescount one)
Note that it doesn’t track your sleep HR data on the app/platform
we’ll head up into the settings area briefly before getting more sport specific
It’s here you can change overall settings like the language or tones
You can also change which time zones are shown as well
Probably the biggest annoyance I have with using the Suunto 9 while travelling is simply that it won’t update to the correct time zone automatically
Virtually every other watch on the market today will automatically change the time zone based on either the omnipresent Bluetooth Smartphone connection or GPS signal acquisition
you have to manually change to the city that you’re in
It’s also in these settings that you can set the daily step goal (default is 10,000 steps)
as well as configure whether sleep tracking and training targets are turned on
it’s also where you pair sensors and your phone
I’ll dive into all things sport in the next section
For the vast majority of purchasers of the Suunto 9
you’re going to be using the watch to track a workout or a race
To start a workout (either race or training)
you’ll press the up button once to get to the exercise menu
and then from there you’ll select the sport you want to do:
These sports are customizable on Movescount
So in order to tweak things like data fields and such
you’ll likely want to hit up the Movescount site to customize these and other watch settings
You can see above how you can customize various sport settings
as well as sport-specific settings like GPS update rates and sensors paired
All this is exactly as before with other Suunto watches
excluding the new battery modes that I note in the dedicated section after navigation
you can go ahead and tweak any last minute items before pressing start
This allows you to add in interval training for example
It also allows you to specify a route (navigation) as well as change the battery status
All of these (with the exception of battery options) are accessed by pressing the down button to a list:
you can define a specific work and recovery duration/distance
as well as have a free-form warm-up/cool-down time period
It’s essentially a basic on-watch interval option that doesn’t allow a ton of flexibility for various other targets (i.e
Suunto also doesn’t support any downloadable custom structured workouts onto the Suunto 9 (such as Garmin/Polar/Wahoo do on their units)
that doesn’t mean Suunto isn’t doing unique power things
Suunto has a bit of a leg up over the competition
Specifically in that they have zones for running power
This means you can specify your running and cycling power zones separately to show data pages on
So if you have a Stryd running power meter
Which platform (Garmin or Suunto) is the best for running power varies a bit on what you want out of it
Suunto doesn’t record/display any of the running efficiency metrics that Garmin shows from Stryd
Garmin forces Stryd into using 3rd party fields for running power
This means that you don’t see running power in native fields like ‘average power’
I’d say that for pure runners that just want running power
Whereas for those wanting the other data that Stryd delivers
and before we press start on this activity (I promise you
you can tweak the battery profile by tapping the upper right button
which iterates through the different battery profiles (and changes the border color on the screen to indicate as such
But I dive into that in much more detail in a dedicated section
let’s press the start button (by now we’ve long since acquired GPS and HR
as indicated by the two status screen icons) and get rolling:
and your customized data pages are displaying on the screen
You can iterate through data pages either via swipe on the touchscreen
You can also disable the touchscreen for activity profiles if you want
which can be useful in activities like swimming or some winter conditions
The data fields here are what you make of them and how you’ve customized them
doesn’t support any 3rd party data fields like the older Ambit watches did
I haven’t heard of any path forward to adding in apps again on the Suunto lineup
my favorite data field/page from Suunto is the lap one
as it allows me to easily see the laps in my workout mid-activity and how they compare
This same page is also available post-workout:
When it comes to things like GPS pace stability
It seems reasonable enough for me while running
my running pace stability is pretty good – which might help)
Laps can be accomplished either automatically via autolap on a preset distance
After you’ve completed a workout you’ll whack the stop button and then get offered the smiley face of your choice to rank your workout
This is then saved to Movescount for later reference
After that you’ll get workout summary information in a long page full of details:
All of this is also available on Suunto’s web platforms
though the degree of data available varies on which platform you use
Here’s the same workout loaded to both Movescount and Suunto Sports Tracker
Movescount is their legacy platform that has largely been used to date and is being phased out
Sports Tracker is what they acquired a few years back and is the new platform for new Suunto devices going forward
Here’s the entirety of an activity on Sports Tracker:
And here’s that same activity on Movescount (and keep in mind
I can tweak those graphs a ton to show way more information)
Sports Tracker basically feels like a rehashed version of RunKeeper from half a decade ago
It lacks most of the sport-focused analytics found in Movescount
The good news here is that you can continue using Movescount
but the bad news is that most of the newer features you might want around 24×7 tracking (i.e
Suunto says over time features will get ported over from Movescount to Sports Tracker
but I suspect we’re realistically talking 12-18 months or so here
I’ve been watching this transition since last December
and I wouldn’t exactly call the progress lightning fast
the Sport Tracker site can’t push your workouts to 3rd party platforms such as Strava or TrainingPeaks
It’s just that the whole thing ends up being cumbersome with you having to use multiple apps and sync multiple times
people would be at their door with pitchforks
you can connect to Strava and TrainingPeaks
and even push workouts from Movescount to Sports Tracker
But that doesn’t solve the part you mostly care about using the newer Sports Tracker platform for
I simply just don’t bother using Sports Tracker (the new platform)
I suspect most people reading this review will fall into that same camp
Amer Sports (Suunto’s publicly traded parent company)
simply needs to give Suunto far more developer resources than it has
it’d still be heavily behind on the app/web platform side compared to what competitors have
they should instead at least focus on making the 3rd party partnerships to platforms like Strava and TrainingPeaks – since that’d largely cover the major bases for most users
(Note: You can use both platforms concurrently
but not both mobile apps paired to the phone concurrently
The Suunto 9 can only be paired to one of the two Suunto apps
you basically need to connect your watch via desktop USB cable to Movescount
that means workouts won’t go to Strava/TrainingPeaks till you get home to your computer.)
Navigation can essentially occur in one of two ways: Either as part of a workout/activity
you aren’t recording your activity/track for later analysis – it’s like a fart in the wind
it just disappears once you’re done navigating
Whereas when done in conjunction with an ‘Exercise’
things are basically the same in terms of what you can navigate to
which can be created online and then downloaded to your watch
or routes – which also can be created online
in Movescount I can create a route such as the below:
You’ll notice on the side the ability to select which watch to sync it to
I really like the Suunto planner for routes
because it clearly displays heatmaps and other people’s public moves
It allows you to find unique places to openwater swim for example
because you can filter on where people are openwater swimming
Once you’ve created your route (which you can also do by importing in GPS files or copying existing activities)
then you’ll add it to your watch and sync your watch
At which point it’s accessible from the navigate menu
regardless of whether or not you’re in an activity
You can easily view the route profile including the elevation both prior to navigating as well as during the workout/navigation
Note that to select a route/POI to navigate to in conjunction with a recorded activity
you’ll simply scroll down after selecting the exercise type and select the ‘Navigation’ option:
Once you’ve started the workout or your navigation
you’ll see the planned route as a solid line
with the dashed line being where I’ve been
My current direction using the magnetic compass is the arrow in the middle
Simply rotating your wrist will also rotate the map
To be clear – this is a breadcrumb trail map only
and not overlaid with any actual mapping data such as the Fenix 5X or Fenix 5+ series have
That would require a boatload more storage on the device
You can zoom in/out on the map by briefly holding the middle button
which lets you then control the scale of the map:
You can swipe-up from the bottom of the screen at any time on the trail/breadcrumb page to get into a navigation-specific menu
This is where you can change your navigation goal (i.e
as well as save your location for future reference
One downside I’ve seen with mapping though is that it’s pretty slow to respond to going off-course
For example in this scenario here (a looped route)
I went the wrong way and it took nearly 100m until the unit notified me I had gone the wrong way
you’ve only got about 2-3 seconds to notice it – because that screen then goes away leaving you with just your dot in the middle of nowhere
The overall navigation experience works fine (I used it in the Alps as well)
but it’s tough going back from having maps on other watches to not having maps
Following a breadcrumb trail is generally great
But where it’s problematic is at multi-trail junctions where you may have 2-4 options
especially if some of those are close together in angle or direction
To be able to quickly reference a map has been more valuable than I’d have originally expected
I know certainly people have been getting along just fine using breadcrumb trail navigation for more than a decade – but the same was true of landline telephones too
Once you’ve got good maps (including topo data)
it’s amazing how useful they can be in sorting out off-trail situations or workarounds
the navigation here on the Suunto 9 is functional
but by 2018 standards it’s looking a bit dated
Suunto says one of the biggest challenges they’ve had from a support standpoint is how to give guidance to ultra-distance athletes on how to get the best battery life from their devices
The product team would come up with all these recommendations
which were essentially just a series of settings to enable/disable
But that meant the settings were tied to a specific sport profile
Meaning that you specifically had to pre-configure these all into a specific sport mode
and couldn’t easily just use a different sport mode with your special battery setups
So Suunto aimed to separate battery modes from sport modes via what they dubbed their ‘Intelligent Battery Modes’
These are three and a half battery modes which simplify how battery drain occurs
The way it works is that when you go to start a workout/exercise
you’ll see a battery mode option prominently displayed in the upper edge
Pressing the upper right button toggles through the different battery modes:
This battery mode then corresponds with a slew of settings attached to it
but it also corresponds to the hours remaining
it does real-time math on how much battery juice you have left to let you figure out if your planned activity will go over the duration required
you can see below how many hours are left for the different modes on my watch when I took this photo:
There’s also a ‘Custom’ mode that allows you to find some middle-ground between these modes if you need it
The different GPS accuracy modes roughly correspond to the number of seconds between refresh rates
while ‘Good’ accuracy is every 60 seconds on the Spartan
Also note that in both Endurance and Ultra modes
they use FusedTrack for Running and Trail Running modes (more on that in the next section)
The claimed battery life for a totally full charge on the watch is the same as the top of the screenshots below – 25 hours for Performance
Here’s the full chart of what each mode does:
there’s actually a fair bit of tweaking going on here to get to these battery levels
It’s turning off the touchscreen and Bluetooth communications
as well as reducing the number of colors the display uses
things actually get even more interesting than this
Suunto has added two layers of mid-activity battery switching
The first layer triggers when you reach 10% battery remaining
and will ask you if you want to switch to a lower battery mode – for example
setting down to ‘Endurance’ from ‘Performance’
It’ll also give you how much battery life you’d get out of that
So you can make the call as to whether that battery life switch is overkill
when the battery gets to an even lower level the unit will toggle into a ‘Chrono mode’
which shuts off everything except a simple timer
It turns off the accelerometer and all other functions to simply give you the total finish time for your activity
the total time that’s shown on Movescount and in the logbook of your watch will be correct
Obviously you hope to never get to that point
This concept is roughly akin to what Garmin does on some of their Edge cycling units in going into a low-battery profile mode turning lots of things off
Now Suunto says they ideally don’t want people to get into that pickle to begin with
so they’ve added one last battery related feature: Proactive battery recharge notifications
The Suunto 9 watch will actually learn which days of the week you tend to do your long runs/rides/hikes and proactively remind you the day prior if it doesn’t think you’d have enough battery to complete that
So if you tend to do an 8-hour workout each Sunday
and you only have 35% battery life on Saturday afternoon
it’ll remind you to give your watch a charge
I only managed to get that warning just as I was proofing this review (seriously
like 30 minutes ago) but it may be that my training schedule is kinda wonky and without a ton of consistency
While I tend to ride longer most Sunday’s
but I’ve also had some 5-hour rides mid-week too – so that’s probably dorking things up a bit
But all this segues directly into the next important feature which is the new FusedTrack; which is probably the most technologically innovative thing to come to the Suunto 9
Suunto has long since used the ‘Fused’ branding for other areas
The concept behind both of these was simple: Start with a baseline of GPS data
and then fuse it together with other sensor data
such as wrist-based accelerometer data to get the best possible real-time pacing data – thus FusedSpeed
FusedTrack though takes that to an entirely different level
The primary purpose here isn’t technically to give more accurate GPS data
it’s to give GPS data where no GPS data exists
when you need the Spartan to go upwards of 120 hours of ‘GPS-on’ time
that means it reduces the GPS update frequency
down to once every 60 or 120 seconds (Endurance or Ultra modes)
That means if you were to plot GPS points
you’d get a less than awesome track in the woods while running
it’s mostly fine for hiking since you’re moving slow enough – but not great for switchbacks and such while running
So what FusedTrack does is take those GPS points every 60/120 seconds and uses the compass
All of which makes an astounding amount of logical sense
then they can roughly figure out everything else from that point forward
Let’s take a look at a 6KM track I did around some woods. Note that aspects like cliffs can and will impact FusedTrack, though in looking at a few people’s tracks that have tried it in mountains on longer trail races
but it’s also not horrendous and is definitely better than reducing recording rate to every minute or so)
What you’re looking at above is impressive
but somehow on that backstretch I managed to stop the Suunto Trainer that I had going as well
and I didn’t notice it for another three minutes
The point here isn’t to show a ‘perfect track’ of the Fenix 5+ vs the Suunto 9
the point is to use the Fenix 5+ simply as a reference for where I actually went (and it does indeed match reality)
that’s because it was sampling every single second
versus only sampling every 2 minutes on the Suunto 9
You’ll notice that in general the Suunto 9 does really well as long as I’m either moving forward
or making directional changes that are logical
Where it got confused both times was when I did short out and back and ran into dead-ends
shorting my distance considerably (in total the run was 6.01KM on the Suunto 9
Virtually all of that distance loss occurred during the out and back sections
it was very very close – especially on the straightaways
The upper straightaway surprised me though as it dipped a bit into the field on both sides (where I didn’t highlight)
In this particular run I made a point of running in places that had virtually no man-made structures or electrical lines or anything else nearby
There were only a few shacks along the way
One item that’s important to note on the 120-second Ultra mode is that the display shuts off (thus is blank)
In order to see information you’ll need to tap a button
which then turns the display back on again
albeit the data shown is delayed until the next refresh
it’s not real-time distance on there at that point
but rather the distance at the last point the GPS ‘checked-in’
the functionality is limited specifically to running and trail running
since they need higher quality (read: consistent) pacing data than a normal walk or hike would give
doesn’t give you enough accelerometer data to figure out the speed portion (and thus
there’s also the reality that most people running more than 24 hours (the max battery life on GPS for a single charge) are likely doing more of a blend of walking than pure running – and as such
that can impact accuracy (it’s only specified for running)
Suunto warned that it’s incredibly important you calibrate your compass with almost nothing nearby
If you calibrate it next to a building or under power lines or what-not
Suunto says their visions are actually more grand here
It was hoped to have FusedTrack implemented in swimming by the time it shipped
but that doesn’t appear to be the case yet
The goal being to do more of a merge of 1-second GPS tracking with compass data to get the ultimate openwater swim track
Definitely looking forward to that being implemented once Suunto is able to
There’s likely no topic that stirs as much discussion and passion as GPS accuracy
A watch could fall apart and give you dire electrical shocks while doing so and be fine
but if it shows you on the wrong side of the road
GPS accuracy can be looked at in a number of different ways
but I prefer to look at it using a number of devices in real-world scenarios across a vast number of activities
trying to get a clear picture of how a given set of devices handles conditions on a certain day
Conditions include everything from tree/building cover to weather
Over the years I’ve continued to tweak my GPS testing methodology
I try to not place two units next to each other on my wrists
I’ll put a thin fabric spacer of about 1”/3cm between them (I didn’t do that on any of my Suunto 9 workouts)
But often I’ll simply carry other units by the straps
or attach them to the shoulder straps of my hydration backpack
wearing multiple watches on the same wrist is well known to impact optical HR accuracy
Using a single route over and over again isn’t really indicative of real-world conditions
The workouts you see here are just my normal daily workouts
I’ve had quite a bit of variety of terrain within the time period using the Suunto 9
I’m mostly going to focus on tracks from this past month
since that’s basically the time-period that the watch has been publicly released and on final firmware
at a high level there’s no enormously wrong chunks
all three units look pretty good at this level
all units actually left the massive highway underpass correctly
but different units had difficulties on the approach
whereas on the right side I’m going northbound
You can see that coming into it the Suunto 9 is off in the tennis club a bit (no large buildings here
coming back through that area you’ll notice the three units are all offset from the actual bike path
The Fenix 5+ is on the water’s edge
while the Suunto 9 and FR935 are on the inside edge
technically more close to the water’s edge than not
all of the units on this return section were within 2-3 meters
the Suunto 9 unit is more incorrect than the others
As I wander through the remainder of the track though
the units were by and large pretty darn close to each other
Occasionally one would wander a few meters offset one way or the other
The only other section of concern was on a tree-lined path that was within about 30-meters of some tall buildings
In this area the Suunto 9 went a bit askew
perhaps 20-meters or so adjacent to the actual path:
the Suunto 9 and Fenix 5+ are very very close
I’m not entirely sure where the FR935 ‘lost’ distance
as the tracks certainly don’t show any cutting of corners of that length
But that’s the ‘official’ distance it recorded in the .FIT file
Suunto watches don’t properly adhere to the .FIT file spec for showing that metric
on Movescount it does show as 16m for this run
so my guess is between 15 and 30 meters would be accurate
you can see from the overall elevation plot that the Suunto 9 did that an incoming storm clearly shifted the altimeter downwards:
Note that while there are sections of the Netherlands that are below sea level
moving onto something definitely not below sea level – the Italian Alps
technically it’s a blend of Swiss and Italian Alps
The Stelvio pass ride is famed of course for its jagged road etched into the side of the mountain
It’s also a fun test of altimeters as well
At a high level, here’s the loop I did. I definitely realize a chart zoomed at this level is almost useless, but we’ve gotta start somewhere. Plus, you can go all interactive if you want by just using the Analyzer links that I’ve provided.
Let’s zoom into the road a little more closely though
The first point where all the units have trouble is a tunnel of sorts
More like a thingy over the roadway to protect it from slides and such
for the most part all the units are pretty darn close:
I don’t really see any clear winner or loser amongst them
minus very occasional flirtings with the edge of the road by at most a meter or two:
You see some scrambles as I enter/exit one of the buildings
and doing some shooting of video/photos near the top
but that’s all contained within a small area
It isn’t until I get almost all the way back down to the valley floor
going through some final switchbacks on a quick descent that I start to see some separation:
But even to try and pick that apart would be tough
with tall trees and occasional rock cliffs
with all the units very slowly spreading apart a bit as I climbed
On the way down you can see the Fenix 5+ showing a bug introduced in recent firmware that overly smooths fast descent data
That bug was supposedly fixed after my ride (in the last 10 days or so)
but I haven’t been in the mountains since then to confirm it
As for which one got the summit elevation correct
the stated elevation of the pass at a sign-post alongside the road is 2760 meters
Now you may remember my video from last month where the Suunto 9 and Fenix 5+ faced off in the water…and both face-planted in failure
their collective levels of suck would impress even the largest of jet engines
But I took them back out again onto the water a few days ago for a redux. Same competitors, same course, heck, even the same topless lady near the starting area. I’m all about consistency. And this time, things were definitely different – at last for Suunto:
Like before I used a FR935 attached to my swim buoy as a reference GPS
This provided a known good above the water for which to compare
with openwater swim modes the party trick is in having the GPS figure out where you went
despite being below the water half the time
It tracks almost precisely alongside the reference GPS track the entire time
it did truncate very slightly the return for some reason – you can see it’s a bit short
This despite waiting 10-15 seconds above water afterwards just to be sure
zero obvious issues – both in the recorded data
but also more importantly while I was swimming as well
Compare that to the Garmin Fenix 5+ that stopped counting distance each time it reached 550y from the last time I stopped (which
was an improvement over the June swim where it just didn’t count distance at all)
you may be wondering where the Fenix 5+ track is in the above – it’s the Drunk Uncle blue line that’s meandering across your screen like an errant line of mustard that missed the hot dog entirely
the Suunto 9 and Fenix 5+ ended up very close
that’s mostly just dumb luck of being wrong half the time and right half the time
As for Garmin’s swim-specific woes – I don’t know what’s up there
merely because the pieces that were broken on the Fenix 5+ were also broken on the FR935 and Fenix 5 in recent firmware updates
Garmin just needs to round up a bunch of employees
and have a swim day or something to get some data
from what I’m seeing on my specific Suunto 9 with GPS tracks
I know some people are seeing ‘wobbles’ on their Suunto 9 GPS tracks
it seems to track cleanly and be wobble-free
as some folks know I had some rough GPS tracks back in June (both above and in the water) – but I haven’t seen those here in July – so I think things might be settling out
(Note: All of the charts in these accuracy portions were created using the DCR Analyzer tool. It allows you to compare power meters/trainers, heart rate, cadence, speed/pace, GPS tracks and plenty more. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.)
note that optical HR sensor accuracy is rather varied from individual to individual
A unit with an optical HR sensor should be snug
but you shouldn’t be able to slide a finger under the band (at least during workouts)
You can wear it a tiny bit looser the rest of the day
I simply use the watch throughout my normal workouts
Those workouts include a wide variety of intensities and conditions
interval workouts on both bike and running
as well as tempo runs and rides – and even running up and down a mountain
it thought I was having a heart attack the first 10 minutes
I have no idea why after that point it decided to join the rest of us
and then it was perfectly fine for a long while before starting to lose the plot again towards the last 20-30 minutes
I’m not sure what else there is to say about that run from a HR standpoint
It was pretty straightforward really – the accuracy sucked at the beginning
and then was perfectly fine for almost an hour
But things don’t always start out wonky. For example, take this also relatively straightforward run I did a few days prior. I was time-limited, so it only ended up being about 30 minutes, but you’ll see that by and large it tracks well enough:
The only caveat would be at the very peak of that short sprint
that it doesn’t quite nail the maximum HR – it falls a bit short
the three units track very cleanly throughout the run
Note the reason why the HR looks sorta like Tetris blocks above is that the scale isn’t too big and my variations in HR are pretty small
Now we’ll shift over to riding, and thankfully that Stelvio ride is a great proxy for showing lots of ride types in a single ride. From steady-state riding to sprints, descending to stop and go. It’s perfect – even a café stop. Here’s that beast of a HR chart:
around the 2hr 42min marker is where we reached the summit and then did a bunch of filming stuff and even went inside to warm-up and have a drink
What’s semi-interesting here is that at the 3hr marker I actually paused the Suunto unit in terms of recording
but it apparently still records the HR data in paused mode
I had specifically paused it and the Garmin so they wouldn’t do funky GPS stuff inside for an hour
Here’s a simple breakdown of the timeline above:
what’s interesting here is you can see how close the HR was between all the devices while actually climbing at a steady-pace
which may be due to holding a camera or such while climbing and the optical HR sensor
things are good…except that last section from 2hr32mins and upwards
I’ve got no idea why everyone went all wonky for this final section
Clearly the Suunto is most wrong at 50-60bpm
but the Fenix 5+ isn’t far behind on the wrong-train
That’s where we stopped descending and had to do legit work for 20 minutes across the valley floor
Ultimately – these results match exactly what I’ve seen on probably dozens of rides with the Suunto 9 since receiving it: Its cycling HR accuracy is perfectly fine when you’re doing a steady pace or other steady-state effort
It’s totally useless when doing anything else
The good news is that they’re in good company there
I’ll say upfront this graph is tough to read
All exercises/movements in this set were dual-handed
I also had a Wahoo TICKR-X HR strap as well
Initially I put that on a stationary water bottle
as that seemed like a logical place for it (to not interfere with either wrist)
But then a couple of the stations took me out of range of the bottle
On the 2nd and 3rd rounds I went ahead and just attached the FR935 to my waistband so I had good connectivity
Here’s what that data looks like:
So what you’re seeing is relatively simple:
It was more likely the TICKR and Fenix 5+ would agree
like I said – I tried to pick a sampling from a variety of sports
that I felt most reflected what I’ve seen over the last few months
I think the biggest challenge Suunto has with HR accuracy on the Suunto 9 is simply the design of the Suunto 9
which any optical HR sensor company will tell you isn’t ideal because it causes bounce
and bounce interferes with the measurement of HR readings optically
It’s why most other watches with optical HR sensors try to keep a low-profile on the wrist
Suunto themselves more than a year ago noted their concerns about adding an optical HR sensor to the Spartan Ultra for precisely these reasons – and ultimately
they were spot-on: It produces less accurate results than their less expensive watches with the exact same sensor (which I’ve had better luck at)
these results aren’t all that different from Garmin’s Fenix 5+ optical HR results either
Garmin has fared better in every HR test here
I’d probably still defer to some other sort of HR sensor instead of the built-in ones if I was focused on wanting accurate HR for that activity
I’ve added the Suunto 9 into the product comparison charts
which allows you to compare it against any other products I’ve reviewed or had hands-on time with
For the purpose of this review I’ve compared it against the Fenix 5+, Fenix 5, and Suunto Spartan Ultra watches. Those are realistically the units you’d be comparing against. As much as people might want to compare it against the Polar V800, I don’t think there’s anybody these days considering a new V800 vs a new Suunto 9. But fear not, if you are, you can simply compare them via the full product comparison tool
And don’t forget you can make your own comparison chart via the full product comparison tool
Suunto’s in a tough spot in terms of competition these days
When I met with them they were clear that they’re no longer trying to compete on feature counts with Garmin
Suunto just doesn’t have the resources (namely
Suunto is aiming to compete on making a device they believe is more durable and attuned to what endurance athletes want: Better battery life
When it comes to achieving those goals, it may just be too soon. In an effort to find those better GPS tracks, Suunto changed GPS chipset vendors as noted, which means they’re going through a bit of a teething phase right now with the new Sony chipsets. As I tweeted though
solving GPS accuracy issues is always a very long road – and sometimes that road doesn’t have a happy ending
What is clear though is that Suunto’s work in long-battery conditions is incredibly cool
If you’re someone aiming to do a run (specifically
then the Suunto 9 most definitely should be atop your list
The 32-hour marker is the max that Garmin can do at 1-second GPS recording
so once you’re beyond that point it comes down to a low-battery bake-off between Garmin and Suunto
and Suunto’s tracks win every time in that mode due to their new FusedTrack
But still really damn cool and better than what Garmin offers
If you’re using the device for under 32 hours of GPS-battery life
Virtually all the features implemented into it were targeted at the Ultra runner
The company eschewed adding in some of the lower priced Suunto 3 features around adaptive training plans into the Suunto 9 – thus minimizing appeal to those who might want those functions and aren’t planning on running a 50K race anytime soon
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Given the unit pairs with standard Bluetooth Smart sensors
I'd recommend the Garmin bike sensors over the Wahoo ones
merely because the Garmin have two concurrent Bluetooth channels versus one for the Wahoo RPM/SPEED sensors
but it also supports the 5kHz analog heart rate transmission for older gym equipment
Note that it only accepts a single Bluetooth connection
This is a dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart cycling cadence sensor that you strap to your crank arm
so you can pair it both to Zwift and another Bluetooth Smart app at once if you want
This speed sensor is unique in that it can record offline (sans-watch)
making it perfect for a commuter bike quietly recording your rides
But it's also a standard ANT+/BLE sensor that pairs to your device
These have mostly become my defacto gravel pedals
and also get used on a lot of other comparison testing
The HRM-200 is Garmin's newest strap that transmits concurrently on both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart
as well as containing new authentication and encryption capabilities
The Wahoo TRACKR is Wahoo's newest strap which aims to fix all the issues with older straps
The Wahoo TICKR is their baseline dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart chest strap that includes basic broadcasting of heart rate data to apps
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The link to Clever Training goes to Fitbit Blaze…
Well that’s odd (and a serious downgrade!)
I was one of those peeps who found the optical hr measurement didn’t work during activities such as running
I wonder why the Valencell sensor didn’t transplant that well
Did Suunto involve Valencell deeply enough in the integration
Is it just an issue with a heavier bouncing mass attached to the sensor
Shame the optical sensor isn’t allowed to move a little independently from the main body of the watch
I hope the occasional GPS glitches are resolvable with the new Sony chipset
Though I’m working with the Suunto Spartan Sport WHR
I’ve found that I have to buckle the watch down one more notch for running & swimming where WHR tracking is desired/utilized
This has resulted in spot-on HR measurements throughout the respective activities
I dial it back a notch on the band (quite literally) for comfort’s sake
No issues in daily or sleep tracking for HR when worn as such
I opted for a customized Spartan Sport Baro for my next watch
The only real appeal to the S9 was the glass watch face
but comments from early users indicated that there was no difference in the mineral glass of the Sport series to the real glass of the 9
especially with touch sensitivity and whatnot
I squeaked in with 42 minutes to spare on getting it posted by the end of July
I’d have called it successful even on Hawaiian timezones
While the lack of WiFi is a bit of a bummer
it honestly hasn’t impacted me at all
I just let it sync via BT and it works pretty seamlessly
I don’t know why that didn’t pan out as well as they thought
I wanna do some more head to head UltraTrac vs FusedTrack type stuff for fun
FusedTrack is definitely pretty good – but when it goes askew
it does so for upwards of that two-minute period (until the next ‘reset’ basically)
Whereas UltraTrac would be suckier more often
but also corrects more often too since it’s not a straight 60/120s on/off type thing
Would be curious how those compare directly in a variety of conditions
I would very much like to see the FusedTrack/UltraTrac comparison
Garmin cable connector makes it impossible to do so while wearing the watch on your wrist
whereas Suunto connector is flat enough to do so
Mr Xi will be watching you… I am not a big fan of chinese products
Cellphones or sports watch are powerfull tools to know everything about someone and there is no privacy in China
So they are usefull for the governement to collect data
spy people and control the population (the famous “big data”)
Think about heatmap on Strava but this time all informations will be in China… This is a real danger for people’s freedoms and the states of law too
I hope you won’t promote chinese products with a review
Just take time to think or read about that
link to wired.co.uk
link to theguardian.com
All smart watches and smart phones are made in China
Apple and Google collect big data and mine it (and sell it on to 3rd parties like the Russians – thanks Mark)
I am pretty sure Ray’s only interest is unbiased reviews of new sports tech and would not wish to go down the dangerous road of political censorship as exists in China
I believe Stages is moving to either Vietnam or Singapore
Ultimately though – the last 2-3 years of history has shown us that the American/European companies are no better at managing privacy than a company in a country that has questionable privacy values
It’s up to individuals to decide how much things are valued or not
but given there’s virtually no public proof that a specific fitness company in China is better or worse than that of another country
it’s really hard to make any judgement based on that fact
I think it is an important topic and it is interesting to discuss about that
i just want to give you my point of view after few years in China and Asia
it is a different country with individual and collective freedoms now
there is a huge difference between the country of production and then the country where the data are saved… I trust more in states of right than in dictatures
In states of right companies can make bad things of course but the law is always here to protect people against abuses and preserve liberties
the governement will have access to all informations your watch or your phone save because data are in China (“1984”
It is interesting to live in a country where people are not free and under control then you understand how important are states of right
I agree that the rights and freedoms we are used to are continually under threat both from within and without
It is those very individual freedoms that give us the right to choose what we read
Those freedoms come with a responsibility to use them wisely
I don’t believe that it is Ray’s role or the purpose of this website to enter into what is virtually pure political debate or to politically sensor what he chooses to review
Perhaps you should start your own website and create a more appropriate forum to continue with what is an interesting debate
The elevation bug on the 935/Fenix5/Fenix5Plus lines has indeed been fixed for some models in beta fw
I don’t believe it’s been rolled out beyond beta fw yet in any product
Thanks for the tip about the two apps and desktop application
I tried out the Suunto 3 and I couldn’t make sense of the software nightmare
I might look for a used Fenix 5 and call it a day
Ideally they’d allow bidirectional sync between Sports Track and Movescount
But as of today it’s only from Movescount to ST
the other direction would actually be more valuable because it would enable ST to get the ‘better’ 24×7 data (which MC doesn’t really care about)
while MC gets the underlying fitness files
The only way I could get the Suunto to work reliably with the optical hear rate was to wear it the wrong way round so the sensor is on the inside of my wrist
Having it the other way produced some shocking results both for gym work and cycling
I think the rubber strap being new and stiff didn’t either
I had to almost force the clip into the next notch to get a decent fit
I’m not sure this “top heavy” part of Suunto 9 is what causes bad HR readings
I’ve been using my Suunto Trainer lots since April and 95% of the times when I run (always steady running
@ Jens Forerunner 735 hasn’t barometric altimeter
so it doesn’t suffer this bug even if
it only uses GPS for altitude measurements and data may be less accurate; if you install latest beta (9.73) on your Fenix 5s
elevation bug is solved so I think you can use it
so maybe there would be other bugs around the corner… If depends on me
i would go for Polar V800 + Garmin 735…
Suunto for sure knows how to make beautiful watches
I’d rather get the Spartan Ultra than the 9…
Did you get any info about Suunto planning multiple BLE sensor support
It seems that this still isn’t solved with the S9
Remember to put this in your comparison chart as Polar and Garmin did solve it
though more in the context of Stryd which they kinda sorted by Stryd now pairing as a footpod and getting power
as opposed to a power meter (which takes up the bike power meter then)
It does mean you depend on Stryd pace though
Not really sure that’s an issue per se
I feel like in some ways Vector has shown that companies can do it correctly within the spec
Favero with Assioma is planning on doing so in a firmware update later this month too
So that mostly just leaves the PowerTap P1
since others like 4iiii and SRM have modes for it too
Thus I’m not entirely sure whether it’s right to blame PowerTap or Suunto for it (one is to blame
I see that it’s not that straight forward
Let’s hope that the industry agrees on a common approach
I tried some 24mm quick release band but they don’t fit properly… the pin head of spring bar of Suunto 9 is 1,4mm and the most common pin head spring bar is 0,8mm so there is too much play…
I’ll add in your 1.4mm vs 0.8mm notes above – appreciate it
„Suunto’s in a tough spot in terms of competition these days
Me and many others I know would easily buy a SUUNTO or a POLAR device… if they only would do „the dual thing“ (ANT+ & BLE)
“if they only would do „the dual thing“ (ANT+ & BLE).”
Almost all these devices have the dual-capable Nordic chipsets in them anyway
It’s simply a firmware/license update to enable it
I do agree it’s becoming less and less of an issue
but it’s still an issue – especially for those wanting to accurately capture their indoor workouts such as those on TrainerRoad or Zwift
and want to collect that power data where single-channel BLE connections limits that
I nearly always have a reason for a multi device-setup
BTW: Have seen that my anlyzr account has expired yesterday
Thanks Boris – glad the Analyzer is working out for ya
“The company eschewed adding in some of the lower priced Suunto 3 features around adaptive training plans into the Suunto 9..”
Do you know if there are any plans of implementing firstbeat features (eg
Then I would seriously consider the watch to buy
but I did confirm late last night there are no near-term plans to add in the adaptive training bits to the Suunto 9 that the Suunto 3 has
DC was well to praise what is right and point the finger at what is wrong
Just for reporting since i read all this review…
: elevation bug is still present in Fenix 5/5X Plus and Fenix 5X
i’m reporting this bug since i owned Fenix 5X (about 3 months ago)
now i sold it for Fenix 5 Plus and the same bug is still here
I’ve reported that this bug is here for Fenix 5 Plus line also since i have purchased it
but nothing… not a single reply from beta team or Garmin customers support
The crazy thing is that i found the issue and i have reported them : they only need to roll back sensor hub firmware version
as soon i received a replaced Fenix 5 Plus i tested it out of the box (it came with 3.20 fw) without any update and the altimeter worked correctly
it found a sensor hub update firmware and installed it
After this little 400kb update (it updates only sensor hub firmware and not system fw)
altimeter start to exhibit this f*****g bug
I told to beta team that if the want to solve this bug
they simply have to roll back sensor hub firmware to previous release… no answer like usually
Now i have purchased a Suunto 9 for my training since if you go for a bike ride or ski or any other activity involving fast ascent/descent
Fenix 5/5X Plus and Fenix 5X is totally useless
all data about climb/downhill is totally no sense
Some users report that also D2 Charlie is affected (and i suppose Tactix Charlie) I don’t want to imagine how useful could be D2 Charlie or Tactix Charlie (based on the same platform of 5X) if it will be use for fly or skydiving…
Just to clarify – are you on the latest beta build with the 5 Plus
it’s a newer bug that randomly showed up as they tried to address some sort of elevation issue and overcompensated
Unfortunately the only way to see it/reproduce it
is basically to descend a big hill/mountain fast enough (bike only)
the beat for the 5+ is still considered a non-public beta by the looks of the e-mail
Garmin actually locks the altimeter for 5 minutes following a swim
thus ensuring that water in the baro ports has time to go somewhere else
I noticed however that elevation bug is linked in some way to post swim altimeter calibration
altimeter it slow to react for after swim calibration as for fast descent…
i forgot to mention one thing about Suunto 9 band… spring bar itself is 2,00 mm
only pin heads that fit into watch’s holes are 1,4 mm
so spring bar could be also bigger than 1,4 mm
it’s important that pin heads are 1,4 mm
More satellites being actively tracked = higher power consumption = lower battery life
Just a quick note to your comment about customers having enough USB wall chargers lying around (not Suunto specific but may apply nonetheless):
I just got notified by Garmin Denmark that the warranty on my fenix 5s Plus has been voided because I charged my fenix with an Apple (iPhone) wall charger
The use of all third party non-approved chargers will void the warranty
Only a PC USB port or a Garmin charger are approved charging units
Thus I actually don’t think that customers have enough of the ‘right’ wall chargers lying around :S
… I think I’ve might have bought my last Garmin unit?
I’d actually love to follow-up on that (read: Cause a Wednesday afternoon…conversation)
Whatever Garmin Denmark is saying is fundamentally wrong and needs to be corrected
Garmin doesn’t include chargers in their boxes anymore
and the entire premise of how USB charging works voids the very concept of what Garmin is saying (a device effectively ask for how much juice it needs
and the charger provides it up to the limit it can)
My e-mail is simply my first name at this domain
haha What did they have to say about this?
Patrick should be receiving contact from his Garmin support friends (either Danish or American) likely today
Officially they said as part of a longer note: “Our intent is to encourage customers to use reputable chargers most likely to operate within specification.” – Meaning
there’s no issues with using that charger or any other ‘reputable’ charger
this slipped by last week – but I talked with Garmin HQ folks about it last night and they noted that nothing has changed in how they process support
and that this should have been handled differently on a few levels.)
Got an email from Garmin Denmark and to put it short they said that they were very sorry for any inconvenience this subject may have caused and that the warranty on my fenix 5S Plus wasn’t voided
They do however encourage customers not to use cheap off-brand chargers as it may(!) void the warranty
Once more thanks to Ray for helping and sorting things out
In the end it all turned out to be another good experience with Garmin customer support
what happens to all your Movescount history if you change over to the new Suunto app
but went back to the rather useless Movescount app because syncing with the new Suunto app doesn’t add the moves into Movescount
Surely it wouldn’t be a big ask to link the two
I like looking at year long graphs for example
just use third party app/software and you won’t have vendor lock-in
I think you can export all of your data out from Movescount
Some services can import data from .fit files
It still most likely will lose your adjustments you could have done for your workout
It would be nice to test which services export your stored data and not the ”raw” files you have inported
and GPS accuracy is what interests me the most (followed by HR
It sounds like Strava syncing works with the cable and a computer
my other option was going to be to get a Fenix 5X or something but honestly
it sounds like the GPS accuracy on trails is kind of crappy with the Fenix and I’m not cool paying $500 for a watch with shitty GPS
has less battery life and no new battery mode of 9
at the and I went for 9 because I think it will game much more margin of improvement so nice is new…
I have the wrist HR baro and it’s a wonderful watch
and works flawlessly in all ways (wrist HR is bang on
gotta go with the 9 for extended battery life and FusedTrack
* it will have much more margin of improvement because is new…
Can it take data from a wheel based speed sensor
Speed and heading was good enough for pilots to find tiny islands in the giant Pacific Ocean while being shot at during past wars
Seems like this dead reckoning should be easy addition for the bike
FYI- the gps in our 2005 minivan claims to use this if it loses signal
Sorry if this seems obvious or if I missed it somewhere on the review but does this unit have a virtual training partner function or support an app that has this function
Its actually possible to switch GPS precision
on the Sparta Ultra while recording an activity in order to increase battery life
With the 9 it guides you to do so and I think they could easily add this (software) feature on the Sparta Ultra
Works during exercise just the same way you set a new route
This assistive battery mode could easily be rolled on the Spartan Ultra and other models
So far so good for me – no discolouration
I had the white gold Spartan HR more than a year now and I wash it under the cold water with soap and once in awhile I scrub it with a soft toothbrush and toothpaste
Now I have also the 9 and compared my Spartan with the new one and still looks as new and I have been wearing it every single day and some days it gets really dirty and sweaty
Do you know why they moved the gps chip from sirf to sony
battery consumption to just because it is cheaper for them
I suspect there are licensing issues / costs
BLE seems the way forward (though its a drag if you have invested in ANT+ devices such as bike power meters which are pricey)
link to thisisant.com
a little rebro box (ANT+ -> BLE) then looked on the webs and there it was
link to thesufferfest.zendesk.com
but ultimately they’re cumbersome and often run into standards issues for newer devices coming onboard
Suunto have supported ANT+ since the Ambit2 – I doubt we’ll be seeing it again any time soon
because of the design and overall focus on reliablity and accuracy but they are making it very hard
Can’t imagine why a company is allowing this clusterf… with two Software-Plattforms and Apps
Syncing can already be painful but with two different platforms for one watch
Then there is this thing with accuracy: I understand it may take a while before they can take advantage from the new chipset but why these issues with OHR
If You are dead serious about GPS accuracy and OHR accuracy I’m afraid I think the good old Polar V800 with their OH1 sensor ist the best bet
Polar even makes better OHR sensors wristbased (although with terrible watch designs)
that Garmin owns the market in terms of features
But for people who are into accuracy and data it’s a choice between Suunto and Polar now
what Polar has to offer in September with their new Vantage series in comparison to the Suunto 9 …
Thanks for the fantastic (as always) review
I’ve been waiting for this review before deciding whether to upgrade from my Ambit3 Peak
I think I’m going to hold off another six months or so in order to see how Suunto does with improving GPS accuracy
I’m definitely their target market with this – give me battery life
navigational features and that’s really all I want
I’ll buy whatever watch masters those four areas even if it’s at the expense of other flashier features
Is incremental accuracy improvements over the next 6-12 months something you plan to keep an eye on and revisit here
The thing I find odd about the 32 hour marker is that even the most serious ultra runners only do that once
At first blush the Fusedtracks seemed like a cool idea – but I suspect it’s functionality largely boils down to “I forgot to charge the watch” type situations plus the one big race per year (if that)
Seems like a rather small benefit for what seems like a headache with respect to the downsides – the platform issues
“The thing I find odd about the 32 hour marker is that even the most serious ultra runners only do that once
It also means you no longer have to charge your watch every few days – or risk the watch dying mid-long-run
I would definitely have to disagree with that comment
The most serious Ultra runners that I know do several 100 milers each year and/or FKT attempts that can last much longer
I wouldn’t consider myself that serious and I do one or two a year
the Garmin Fenix 5x plus is my only choice
If accuracy is good and battery life is excellent
why add more satellites and sacrifice battery life
while the hardware is good and the new fusedtrack feature is great
the watch has some doftware issues that made me return it as I do not have the patience to wait for fixes
On paper it was absolutely what I wanted: basic features
the watch has some doftware issues that made me return it as I do not have the patience to wait for fixes.”
I would not say old as the first 3 Ambits were great in this regard
I would like someone to post an updated SSU review with the latest 2.0.42 firmware
I bought it in June and so far I have no complaints (I did pool swimming
so I would say most (all?) bugs are fixed by now and that the SSU is a good buy (now decently priced)
The only thing to mention (which might be because of old hardware???) is that I can see some weird background light around the edges during an activity
it’s like it shines through without meaning to
I agree with Serban that this is not an “old problem” for Suunto
I would be interested in any examples you could provide other than the first gen firmware Spartans
Suunto’s earlier products such as the A1,2,3 & vertical were rock solid
The “old problem” your refer to is actually a relatively new one for Suunto and started with the Spartan series
This was more a case of underdeveloped firmware at the time of release
It was just underwhelming and not as feature rich as even their last watch
It is good reliable minimalist watch and has never crashed
Garmins have been problematic on release and beyond for years
I would suggest that if there is an “old problem” then it belongs to Garmin
They are pretty good at subsequently updating and fixing the software
Unfortunately not all the issues are in firmware and rectifiable
Just look at the F5 ant antenna and baro problems and the F5+ GPS issues
LOL I’ll ask a question to my own post now
I just realized the Spartan series LACK the stroke type data field for pool swimming
This is available in the Ambit3 Vertical watch
Could not believe my eyes when I swam today with A3 Vertical and wanted to configure my SSU to show stroke type but it wasn’t available
Multiple people have asked about the screen legibility difference between the Suunto 9 and the Fenix 5+
Will anyone who has experience with both units please comment on that
Both units on both sides of the fence are using the same screens as their previous units
I think in general I find the Suunto Spartan/9 shows colors a bit more crisply
but I find readability and overall a bit easier on the Fenix 5
A front lit high contrast monochrome reflective display on a rectangular screen would be my preference
but that doesn’t mean such an update will come anytime soon – or ever
I haven’t seen Suunto express any interest in music control or the like in any conversations I’ve had with them
Not even the slightest mention of anything musical/etc…
at least if one could pick up a phone or end a call so that you dont have to take out your phone on a bike or look for it in backpack when skitouring etc
:/ I have ambit 3 and I wanted tu buy a new model
I hope they will add this functionality soon
I just switched from a Fenix 5 to a Suunto 9
I was really turned off by all the features Garmin is focusing on that I’m really not interested in (music
payments) while seemingly not fixing and focusing on really great activity tracking and accuracy
Suunto seems to have doubled down and focused on features for endurance athletes
Although I wish the Suunto could support multiple sensors or my Powertap P1 pedals better
the GPS accuracy and battery life during an activity is amazing
There were certain canyon rides and long runs that my F5 would always get confused and lost no matter what
And even when it was ideal conditions the F5 would always be off course just enough to be frustrating
seems to be much more accurate and a lot better in keeping signal
the switch reminds me a lot of when I moved from Windows to Mac over a decade ago
but what it does support seems to be pretty good and reliable
It is also great to have native support for my Stryd foot pod
The Connect IQ app on the F5 always felt precarious and somewhat unreliable
It seems like others on here are considering a similar switch
I hope this is helpful (albeit all anecdotal)
Thanks for the great reviews and information Ray
I always look forward to them and all the info and details they contain
The only big downside that I have noticed so far is that the battery life when just “idle” (not tracking an activity
just showing time and reading HR) is less than I had hoped
It seems to burn through 10-15% battery a day on my rest days (I think someone else above mentioned the same thing)
I think if you press and hold the lower lap button during a run
Admittedly I completely lost interest after reading this: ” Suunto watches don’t properly adhere to the .FIT file spec”
To me that means that it won’t play properly with other platforms (Strava
I went through that with the Fenix 2 swim recordings (it would give the distance of the entire swim as the distance of the first interval on Strava) years ago and it drove me insane
If a company cannot stick to a standard format I am not interested
I have a friend with an Ambit Sport (or something like that) that gives her pool swim distances that aren’t even multiples of the pool length……
Some observations after a week of using a Suunto 9 alongside a Fenix 5X Plus
I’m wondering if anyone else is seeing the same things
I’m getting horrible battery life in watch mode
The watch seems to use less battery when recording an activity than it does just sitting on my wrist
I have 24hr HR turned on and smart notifications
Backlight settings are default and I’m using the outdoor watch face
The watch seems to sync with my iPhone a lot
I frequently get the “Syncing” notification when trying to view the logbook or settings on the watch
Distance accrual in Endurance mode seems really long
link to analyze.dcrainmaker.com
Plotting the route of that run on Garmin Connect I got a distance right around 22mi
Fenix 5X Plus in UltraTrac mode was 21.91
The autolaps on the Suunto 9 were also all over the place
ranging from 0.94mi to 1.14mi when set to 1mi and with correspondingly all over the place paces
link to analyze.dcrainmaker.com
My take away from this is that my old Suunto Ambit 2 and Garmin 910XT are much better than these two super expensive devices
its GPS tracks look perfectly fine when not in UltraTrac mode:
link to connect.garmin.com
the tracks in FusedTrack mode really are amazingly good
But during an ultra the primary thing I’m worried about is distance to the next aid station
and I’m really not that concerned with what the track looks like afterwards
I am having a hard time deciding between the S9 and Fenix 5 plus
I don’t understand why people are having problems deciding
Ray clearly says that if you are not running over 32 hours (most of us) the Suunto is probably not for you
And even if you are running that far once a year or whatever is it worth having a watch that performs less well on all your training runs
I’d recommend the Fenix 5 Plus without reservation over the Suunto 9
even if you regularly run 24 hours or longer
and charging the Fenix on the fly isn’t a big deal
I have both the 9 and the 5X Plus and have been putting them through their paces – for what it’s worth
but most runs are 5-20 miles and I do like being able to wear the watch as a daily driver from time to time
I’m doing Leadville in a few weeks and still haven’t decided which watch to wear
Aesthetics – purely subjective but I think the 9 is a much nicer looking watch – more streamlined
I also prefer the screen and the way the characters look
Battery life – Garmin says the 5XP can go 32 hours but I’m guessing it would be more like 28 if using continuously
The 9 can go much longer than that but at what cost of accuracy
My results in the 60 and 120 second modes haven’t been as good as DCR’s
You could charge the 9 while wearing it as long as you don’t need oHR
Wrist heart rate – I use heart rate functionality a lot so this is an important feature to me
When using oHR with these watches though – I give a slight edge to the 5XP
apps (although these usually always suck IMO)
The Suunto has cool battery modes – that’s about it
I train at MAF HR and the vibration and audio cues are practically non-existent
Bottom line – I’m leaning toward the Suunto
I am using the same settings and it drains 25% a day
That’s a lot compared to my good ‘ol Suunto Ambit S3
i heard this would be supposed to be great in open water…any thoughts
I came across something on the Suunto App beta forum that has made living with the 9 a lot less painful
there’s an app called RunGap which can do synchronization between Sports-Tracker and Strava/Training Peaks
I’m using it to push my workouts into Training Peaks
It can even be configured to do so automatically
Long press (around 4s) the up and down buttons simultaneously
it seems to boot up again unprompted a few seconds later
It does go into a reduced power state (hibernation) if left stationary on the side long enough (just like the Ambits)
I am not sure what the exact battery life is in hibernation mode
As the power output is minimal compared to that used during an activity there is generally no need to switch off between activities unless they are weeks apart
I have been using the Suunto 9 for nearly a month now
I previously had an Ambit 3 Peak which I liked a lot
All these things are indeed nice improvements
however the basic functionality of GPS tracking no longer works reliably
This is a MAJOR issue with the new 9 which so far has not been addressed by Suunto
even after several calls to their support line
I have only used it for running/trail running so far
it seems to connect to GPS satellites before starting the run
but when I upload to Movescount (via Suunto cable hard connection to PC)
Strava interprets these runs as “Treadmill workouts” presumably because there is no GPS data to work with
and again there is no map in strava that shows where I was
This has happened on 45 min-1.5 hour runs on trails and pavement
While running the watch appears to be tracking distance
etc – and there is no indication that it is not tracking via GPS until I get home and upload the data
In the 100 mile race the watch actually measured 121 miles – so it was off by >20%
presumably because it was not using GPS data but was using the fused-whatever calculations based on accelerometer and compass data
When I uploaded to Movescount it had no map
Strava thought I did 121 miles on a Treadmill
Another issue I have had was with the distance recorded being significantly short
In these cases the Suunto 9 did record GPS data
and although it was set to “performance” mode with 1 sec GPS sampling
FIT file etc did not record a data point for every second – instead they vary between 1 sec and up to 87 seconds apart which clearly impacts the accuracy
Suunto advised me to delete the standard “Trail Running” mode in the watch and create a new one
which did (inexplicably) seem to fix this issue
The whole experience has been incredibly frustrating
I’m seriously wishing I had not sold my Ambit3 Peak to “upgrade” to the new 9
the rep admitted that this is a known issue and promised they would get back to me in 1-2 days to let me know if they will be able to fix it on my watch or not
I told him I am seriously thinking about returning it and getting a Garmin instead if they are not able to fix it soon
if you are thinking of upgrading to the Suunto 9
There are some serious bugs they need to work out
There’s a known issue where it will fail to record a GPS track if Power Save is enabled when you start the activity
I’ve been using power save mode since it seems to lose 5-10% power each day in normal use even without GPS activities
Funny that none of the 3 Suunto reps I talked to mentioned that
I had the same thing happen to me and found this thread on the Suunto App beta forum:
link to forum.suunto.com
My “lost” activity was only a 60 minute walk
I can’t imagine how pissed I’d be if I had lost a whole 100 miler
I’ve been experiencing the high drain in watch mode too
I will have to check out the forum link you posted
I have been having similar issues with the Suunto 9 — re GPS coming up short – wasn’t sure if it was tree canopy or what…
I have been wearing the fenix 5s plus and the suunto 9 baro on the past few runs
moreso than the garmin fenix 5s plus… both were off from the trail’s documented mileage
Suunto was off by 0.6-0.9 – it was extremely disheartening
I do plan to go back and ensure I am using the most accurate GPS setting re Suunto… but if this is how it performs
it’s kind of a deal breaker… I was wondering if you had anything more to say on the GPS accuracy when it comes to tree canopy coverage and performance/accuracy
hence interest in suunto as I move closer and closer towards a hundred
Still running my Ambit3 Peak for primarily mountaineering
Is the 9 a worthwhile upgrade to the Ambit3
The UX of the Ambit leaves much to be desired and having to plug in the watch to turn it on is inconvenient to say the least
Navigation/breadcrumbs is ok on the Ambit but have had several issues on Rainier/Baker where the FusedAlti went from reading correct at 11k to rapidly climbing to over 35k’ in about 30 seconds
Def helped me pad my stats and impressed friends but dangerous for off-route nav*
I realize charges in barometric can throw these off but the AltFuse *should* have accounted for the discrepancy with using GPS…Suunto ultimately replaced it but only because I was barely still in warranty
Gives me significant hesitation to fully trust it today
Using your amazingly helpful comparison chart
it’s hard to see too much difference
Would you recommend looking at a different watch then for this set-up
*Reminder to all to have multiple modes of nav obviously
The altimeter on the Suunto 9 seems pretty accurate but I wouldn’t switch/upgrade until they have their platform issues ironed out
sync with the Suunto app currently records invalid elevation gain
be warned that with both Movescount and the Suunto app if you record an activity using one the Endurance or Ultra modes and sync it to Strava you get invalid pace data
They’re making progress–the latest Suunto app beta lets you customize sports modes from the app (and has a super nice user interface)
but doing so disables your watch from syncing with Movescount
The A3 peak is imo the peak of Suunto’s offerings and is still the best gps watch out there for open water swimming
Spartans/The 9 are a step backwards (ignoring the colour display and slightly better interface)
Subsequent Fenixs seem to get more features
more expensive but progressively worse at the core stuff such as BT sensor connection and GPS accuracy and precision
I think a successor to the V800 will come out in the Fall
The V800 is still the best watch I have from a training functionality PoV
BT sync is manual and it is a little uncomfortable to wear because of the antenna design (which also gives it the best GPS)
native Stryd support for pace and power with power zones
At 4 yrs old it was massively ahead of its time
The optical HR on the 9 is not worth having
It has half the battery therefore endurance in simple watch mode (Ambit lasts over a month)
Although fused track is an interesting idea and generally works ok it has some bad worst case performance
I think Garmin and Suunto have just lost the plot
I would keep your old A3 and await the reviews of the Polar Vantage range before making any decisions
In many ways the S9 is a downgrade (other than in looks and UI) on the A3P
Improvements are that It does show a breadcrumb trail of where you have been (as opposed to the line showing the route you are following) but the A3P has trackback
I found the optical HR useless for activities – might be ok for resting HR but only visible on the watch
Definitely looking forward to that being implemented once Suunto is able to.”
I have been a Garmin user (910XT) for many years but as an open water swimmer the thought of FusedTrack for swimming would certainly lure me across to Suunto – especially as I have a birthday coming up…
My concern is that when the SSU range was launched there were software/feature shortfalls – is it fair to say that Suunto have lived up to their promises regarding the SSU range
If so do you feel that they will live up to this promise for the Suunto 9
Thanks for your help and fantastic reviews
“My concern is that when the SSU range was launched there were software/feature shortfalls – is it fair to say that Suunto have lived up to their promises regarding the SSU range?”
Suunto has said openly and repetatively that they screwed up with not meeting promises on the SSU
The question is whether or not they eventually got there
And I think they did – it just took them almost two years to do so
that’s kinda like the kid who turns in his homework late (albeit mostly correct)
Which isn’t to say I think the Suunto 9 is like that at all
it’s also got its own (mostly accuracy focused) issues to sort out
the accuracy issues weren’t too bad at all for GPS/Altitude
I don’t know how long (or if) Suunto will take to solve all of the GPS issues to an acceptable level of the community (the vast majority of owners
I don’t think any watch will ever appease everyone)
My understanding is that most of this is tied to the Sony chip
In that case I kinda read that as recommending a (now discounted) SSU and possibly adding a Polar OH1 or other optical HR-reader for anyone (like me) who doesn’t like chest strap
I returned my S9 as the WHR was useless and battery life when NOT using GPS was poor (it has half the battery of the SSU)
Apart from the battery management features the interface/functionality seem identical
I have not tried this swimming but if worn close to the watch you might get okish HR in the pool too
bigger memory for stored routes and longer real world battery life
In summary from a pure functionality PoV for my use the A3P > SSU > S9
Also to consider would be an old F3 (without OHR and without Sapphire) though you are then stuck with an ANT HR
display is a little higher contrast (though slightly smaller) and the backlight brighter
It is not so good from a route creation and navigation PoV but it is acceptable if you import routes from elsewhere into Garmin Connect
Again I see a decline in core functionality (GPS accuracy
battery life) with F3 > F5 > F5+ though of course lots of new smart watch type features
I have not had a FR935 but from posts I have seen folk seem generally pretty happy with this device
It has support for BT LE too so should work with OH1
With a pod you also get Garmin’s spin on power though I think I trust the numbers from my Stryd more which also gives great instantaneous pace
Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to have the route navigation screen on while on the same screen reading other metrics like heart rate or pace
I notice that when I run a new route I still need to check my heart rate quite often
After too much research I’ve decided to pull the trigger
the battery is winning me over from Garmin
I am ready to purchase but the code tells me it is invalid for the discount
i’m also experiencing the same thing
I sent an email saturday and their reply was to use a code; I did
just as a slightly belated follow-up on this…the coupon code issue is fixed
I received a response that the $599 is a sale price and the discount isn’t valid on sale items
I ordered from REI so at least get a $60 back in merchandise
The Suunto 9 have record hr underwater with optical wirst
It will let you use the wrist based measurement but in my experience
the measurement is so bad I’ve turned it off
It always gives me around 220 through whole under threshold swim sets when my max HR is around 175…
Enters the clock and interferes with the pendulum
The Ambit 3 is easier to read than the 9 because of the low contrast colour transflective display
It is also a better watch in most other respects
The old Polar V800 also has a nice high contrast black and white display which is probably the easiest to read of any device
It natively supports Stryd running power and is a GoPro remote
It is also better at route navigation than DC’s original review suggests (this may have been developed further) though you have to create a GPX somewhere else and upload to Polar Flow as a favourite
The biggest plus to me is the most comprehensive and flexible set of free phased training programs in the market
The big downside is it looks a bit “back to the future”
It would look good on your wrist as you get out of your DeLorean
It made me decide to send back my Suunto Trainer HR
which had a lot of functionality that I didn’t care for
that didn’t work (optical heartrate)
Replaced it with probably one of the last A3P Sapphires
but the “white” should be much brighter
I’ve been using the Suunto 9 for a little over a month and it’s great
The touch screen stopped working a few days ago
I cant find any comparisons in English unfortunately
but only because I do love the styling of the new 9 and because I love watches – despite that – nothing new with the 9 compared to the wrist HR baro except the time you can use it with GPS on
Is there a way to find those files locally
or does that mean I have to download each of my activities from MOvescount
Muy buenos relojes,lastima que su app movil no esté a la altura
Muy buenos relojes,lastima que su app movil no esté a la altura,por ese dinero hay mejores opciones
but having all the Garmin gadgets it is very hard for me to switch
I am a South African runner in need of a new watch
I find that the market for Suunto in SA is very limited
and that (most) people have nothing positive to say about it (perhaps because no-one buys them here)
My question is: do you think it’s worth the trouble
Why not wait a few weeks for the Polar Vantage series to come out
The m has 40 hrs battery in high res gps with wrist hrm (which will work) plus power on the wrist
If you really want a Garmin why not consider a 935
lighter with better gps and btle antennae
the product comparison calc now looks to be wrong for this watch (not your fault!)
The DB has the “Suunto 9” as having a barometric sensor and Suunto just did a Suunto and released a Suunto 9 without one and the “Suunto 9 Baro” is now the one you reviewed
It’s exhausting looking at their watches
I can’t imagine many people ever work out which model they actually want from this mess :o/
I got an e-mail from them yesterday about the changes
I’m kinda just virtually throwing my hands up in the air and agree
They had something going with the whole Suunto 9 concept
but now they’ve just muddied the waters
And that’s before you consider they want to brand the Suunto 9 like the KICKR
the name for the specific product that Ray reviewed has always been “Suunto 9 Baro” – the fact is that since there was no other “Suunto 9” in the lineup
this model was simply called “Suunto 9” by many people (I hope not by the people at Suunto dealing with Ray
Now that there is a model called “Suunto 9”
I just looked in my Outlook (which is the epicenter of everything for me and includes all communications with everyone)
The only time the words “Suunto 9 Baro” were used was oddly enough by a generic marketing e-mail once back in June (and a single commentator way up above in August here)
Never once has it been used by any Suunto employees when discussing the product with me
nor in any materials i’ve received from them
in the grand scheme of things it’s a shrug
but it’s also a facepalm from a branding standpoint – especially once they start adding year identifiers to it as planned
I entirely agree – it’s a branding facepalm
They could have well called it “Suunto 8”
if they wanted – it’s obviously a slightly less premium version of the watch
and it would not have created the same confusion
the fact that employee didn’t use the proper name indicate some in-house lack of communication at the very least
the official name is actually: Suunto 9 G1 Baro
I though I might have been missing some simple fix
Are you aware of any plans from Suunto for a firmware upgrade that will address the issue in the future
And that is why I prefer ANT+ over Bluetooth
This is a problem with the Suunto Spartan Ultra as well
Maximum of one Bike POD paired seems crazy especially with smart trainers
road and mountain bikes each with different wheel sizes
I have Suunto 9 baro for a month and found this problem
I was on a hike in the mountains and I stopped at the chalet for lunch without pausing activity tracking (I forgot)
Suunto 9 lost GPS signal but still showing speed and counting distance
It was around 3,4 km and speeds up to 43 km/h (max 81,4 km/h) when I was sitting at the table all time
Never had this problem with my old Polar V800.
It looks unusable for example when you go skiing and every run you go through cable way station and lost GPS signal
there will be great difference to reality and problem to check your highest speed
I will have to manually scan the graph on movescount.
Is there any news from Suunto concerning custom workouts being added to the watch
That is my one bugaboo about buying this watch vs
The old A3 had custom workouts from the app – clunky but OK
It is a pretty fundamental requirement if you are serious about your training
Thank you for your interest in Suunto Products and your patience towards our response
We make sure that your feedback will be regarded with prompt attention to our Development Team as this is a very important feature implementation
Would you let us know what specific feature you are looking that is found lacking in terms of Custom Interval support either via the Suunto App or Movescount
This is the response that I received from Suunto
I will keep everyone posted if I get a response
so far I’m not unhappy having bought the watch considering the functionality
but there’s one major issue that let me think otherwise
How come a watch drains so much battery just being in idle mode
The Suunto 9 looses up to 15% a day in watch mode and on the contrary just 2-3% per hour in full GPS mode with heartrate switched on
Compared with the Spartan Ultra (which i also use) that’s more than 500% battery drain on daily basis
How do you find the features of the Suunto 9 compared to the Spartan Ultra
In terms of functionality going from the Ambit 3 to the Spartan Ultra I lost of bunch of functionality and after 2 years its still missing multiple Bike POD support
more custom screens in MovesCount and features like starting a route at either end
When comparing the Suunto 9 with the Spartan Ultra on the Suunto site it appears the Spartan Ultra is lighter
One area that’s really lacking on the Spartan Ultra is the multisport mode unless its a standard triathlon
One can’t create a custom sports mode with their selection of sports with transitions to use
Instead one must press and hold the button to change sports modes and use a fake sport for the transition time (transition sport isn’t available)
Any know if/how this has changed on the Suunto 9
Does anyone know if navigation/breadcrumb will work on the the 50 hrs gps mode or only on 25 hrs mode
if you choose “navigation” the watch will switch automatically into “GPS best” mode
I’m wanting to find out if the Suunto 9 has an Estimated Time of Arrival feature or Race Predictor whereby it gives an estimated finish time based on your current pace with predefined distance (marathon etc)
I see it has an ETA feature when you use the navigation feature but this isn’t what I’m after
I haven’t seen this feature on either the SSU or the S9
The old A3 had phased training (clumsy via the mobile app) but at least it was there and even included support for power
You could also write your own simple fields (“apps”) (I created a virtual partner field which showed your position +- m from a target pace(er)) which despite its simplicity was really useful)
The present range of Suunto products does not properly support training for improvement
It saddens my that they are inferior to the A3 in most respects
All the products are good for route creation with Movescount and navigation though the A3 has better gps accuracy
should rail against the depressingly mediocre management team at Suunto
Basic Polar and Garmin devices have this feature
I’m literally waiting to give them my money for this unit but I can’t bring myself to buy it without this small feature which I find very useful for my running effort
Is there a work around or something else it has that works similarly
I think the workaround is to get an old Polar M400
They are really cheap since Vantage announcements
Alternatively get an old Garmin that supports Connect IQ and download my race pace app
link to apps.garmin.com
typically my M430 for multiphase trg and my F3 because I like to be able to create my own whacky fields
That really isn’t great that the flagship Suunto unit doesn’t have this basic tool that even the most simple Garmins have
Are there plans to have third party apps for this unit then
I really want to buy one but having difficulty justifying it when other brands and models seem to offer this
I very much doubt that Suunto would now offer apps
The A3 did and they have had 2 yrs to carry this over to the SS (and so the 9)
I suspect they have made a commercial decision to move out of apps altogether (its a big programming overhead to support apps if you are a small team)
Its also a little embarrassing to compare app development on the Suunto A3 to the highly sophisticated SDK for Garmin devices
No GPS no need to charge it constantly and uses footpod etc so it is time
It’s really hard wanting to support Suunto when their products just don’t match up to competition
I’m looking for some specific features and the 9 just doesn’t have this basic feature along with a few others that just seem like a deal breaker
Even better (or should I say worse), check out this article that wonders if Kilian Jornet did actually summit Everest :link to marathoninvestigation.com
Like all tech how good it is depends on what you wish to use it for
You give good examples where excellent GPS is essential
I used to get very excited about poor GPS accuracy but my view has mellowed a little
Foot pods outperform GPS for pace and distance measurement
So for multiphase training in a known location you don’t need GPS at all if you have a calibrated foot pod or a Stryd
If you are running a rather technical new route in difficult terrain for GPS then a good antenna and chipset is essential
I still use my Suunto A3 for hillwalking as I have not come across anything better
I wish it did touch on the stand-by battery length though
which is substandard when compared to the Fenix 5
I just hope I can get through a few more days on this watch in Standby mode and power saving turned on
Also having an issue with the strap causing rashes
but they appear to have more straps coming out so hoping those will fix the issue
Is there anyway to track pending features Suunto is working on
According the heart rate at the beginning: this issue is also present in the Ambit3 series
An it seems to be worse since the last firmware update (which happened more than a year from now)
if none of the suggestions mentioned help
freshly resetted… even after 30min it was totally off
I hope that they will support at least three bike pods to be paired at the same time in an upcoming release
Having to pair and calibrate the watch every time I change bike is a showstopper for me
link to the5krunner.com
It seems that the new GPS Chip Set is for battery safe
Anyone here switch from Garmin to this Suunto 9
I have the 935 and would like to upgrade to something that can get through 100+ milers
The upcoming Polar Vantage V is also in consideration
I’ve yet to find anything that works well for 100 milers
The ones that claim long battery life have terrible GPS tracking
I used my 935 and charged it during the race
It was quite a bit easier to charge on the go as I could leave it on my wrist with the charger strapped to my arm
I actually liked my old Polar and Suunto watches with the separate GPS sensors strapped to my arm because it was easy to swap out batteries in long races (Polar RS800 G3 and Suunto T6)
Magellan had a great idea with battery packs you could add to the watch (Switch Up)
The Suunto 9 ticks a lot of boxes for me and have pretty much decided to move from Polar
I decided to checkout Movescount to see how it compares to Polar Flow
I’ve never seen such a confusing website
I uploaded a few previous run but while they’re saved in my activities
they don’t see to show as “Moves”
Even after a good twenty minutes of trying to navigate the website couldn’t really work out how it works or what much of it does
So much so that it’s put me off getting the Suunto 9
I’ve tried to find website that could help explain how this strange beast of a website works but with no success
Can anyone point me in the right direction
Should I be discounting the Suunto 9 due to this worryingly confusing website
I wouldn’t call it confusing but perhaps it depends what you are looking for
When you log in you have the moves shown in a calendar and you can click each move from the date and get a summary and all the details
top right corner has a menu where you can go to your watch and edit and add sport profiles as well as training views (Polar naming) for the respective activities
My negative comment is that the app shows much less details so for instance if I do pool swim I can’t see details about stroke type and my auto laps unless I go to the web version
The thing that confuses me is that when I log in I don’t see any of my runs on the calendar
I’ve not seen anyone else mentioning the software so perhaps it really is just me
Ultimately I would be setting it up to transfer to Strava anyway
I think I’ll wait a few more months before investing
I got my Suunto 9 Baro with clevertraining.com in the US and it was fine
except that I had to pay the 20 % VAT on top of the price to the Roissy Customs office and 15 € in addition to Fedex fo their admin cost
1 – Heart rate is a bit of a joke for the first 10 minutes ( up to 203
where I m around 100 – 120 bpm) even with the 2.4.14 version
to wear the watch high on your wrist is a bit peculiar unless you are running with your arm in the air… if not gravity will do its job and the watch will slip…
i have 20 km and 100 on the watch and this is fine
3 – Battery life is very poor… on a daily basis ( even with notification removed
etc…) How to stop the Heart Rate reading when you do no activity
Even if pressing the top button for 12 sec
you would have been better off ordering from Clever Training Europe – as then you wouldn’t have been hit by the import duties since it’s all within the UK/EU (and still free shipping)
it isn’t as good with all the notifications/HR turned on as some
What are you getting in terms of average days with how many hours of GPS
You can disable the HR sensor via Settings > Activity > Daily HR
There isn’t any way to turn off the watch unfortunately
I get better readings when i do a quick warm-up prior to my run with heartrate-sensor switched on
this i have also criticized i my first post
Since the update to 2.1.14 i only got 2% battery loss on a daily basis with HR switched off
Add the turn wrist mode to activate the backlight
Suunto doesn’t have any sort of custom watch faces (beyond the stock ones you can change to)
I do agree it’d probably be a popular thing
give how many people change their watch faces on other watches/platforms
Suunto hasn’t seen the value in those additional non-workout metrics for quite some time
It’s really only in the last year or so that they’ve even started to make some of the basic sleep/activity metrics available online
there’s still core 24×7 metrics that aren’t actually recorded anywhere (like HR)
while it’s disappointing to not have a plethora of watches faces to choose from to match my ever changing mood
Although from another viewpoint it does concern me
There are numerous comments on the internet by users and potential users who are irritated by this
And there seems to be little to know acknowledgement by Sunnto of this
This leaves me bemused that a feature that I imagine is relatively easy to implement and would return so much positivity that it’s not updated
And here’s why it could be a deal breaker for me
but they’re not prepared to pick this ‘low hanging fruit’
And if they’re not prepared to acknowledge this I can’t imagine them moving into action to do something decisive with their software/app ecosystem which I feel is a bigger issue
Until that takes a relatively big step forward
my money is going to stay in my wallet or I’ll be persuaded to by a competitors offering
I think the biggest challenge Suunto faces with watch faces is that it’s basically instantiating a development framework/platform for it
They could find middle ground in things like allowing someone to place an image as a background (such as of their dog/kids/mistress/etc…)
But this segment seems to want more like what’s found on Garmin and more specifically watch faces like Actiface*
which is mind-bogglingly popular (with over a million downloads)
my bet is that Suunto could probably even work with that developer directly and come up with a customized variant of it
all of that is a big leap forward for Suunto into an area that they somewhat left behind with the Ambit series
*https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/7ef071c3-4a14-4eb3-aca9-e3a531262711
I would like to submit my humble opinion of what I believe are missing features that if are included
it will make the S9 an outstanding smartwatch against anything else in the market for many years to come
your post is a good example how different users are
For me all of your listed and missing feature are totally obsolete and i’m more than happy that Suunto decided NOT to implement the 1000-gimmicks-nobody-cant-make-any-use-of features
It’s meant to be a sports watch and for me it definitely is one hell of a watch…
I’m not really sure if I’d consider #4 a gimmick…given that loosely translates to: “Make your device work with your own platforms properly.”
#2 and #7 are hardly gimmicks either – especially if we take Polar’s approach of those exact same things being defines what’s a ‘sports’ watch
I’ve never really understood this fascination with saying something is more of a ‘sports watch’ or a ‘performance watch’ than another device that has the exact same features but more features as well
Somehow more features makes it less capable
Or for example if both say Suunto and Garmin implement a sport-science focused feature
then Suunto is said to be ‘focusing on sport’
whereas Garmin is said to be adding ‘gimmicks’
The funny part in that scenario is both companies license the exact same sport science feature from FirstBeat
All too often people let brand lenses cloud their perception of these watches features
Hands down more comfortable on my wrist than the Fenix 5X
Better aesthetics and screen in my opinion
Has great battery life and all the features mentioned by everyone
But it really misses some some features that it’s capable of doing that I just don’t get
Why on earth can it not work out your estimated finish time based on your current or average pace based on a preset distance?
It can only work this out from a preloaded route which 99.9% are not available from race organisers
Small thing that made me go with the Fenix 5X plus eventually
That and absolutely no 3Rd party App support for these types of info which some people find useful in races or runs
Suunto improved the screen and aesthetics but their newer devices have fewer features than the Ambits and dropped the ball with the basics
It has mediocre GPS accuracy and the optical HRM just measures cadence during a run
It does support power zones in addition to pace and HR but just one target zone for the whole activity with no multiple phase zone workouts (MPZ) (which A3 did support via the app.)
I could not live with the awful GPS performance of my F5+ but my F3 is a good workhorse and I enjoy the CIQ SDK which continues to get better over time
BTW I have implemented a power based MPZ field for CIQ as Garmin have not yet done this on GC despite introducing running power
link to apps.garmin.com
I understand the thrust of Stephan’s statement and your response
The discussion hinges upon what is a good or bad fit for the individual and what is just plain good or bad
The latter for an individual is based on the former so the discussions just go round and round
My personal preference is for great what I would call core functionality
NFC payments and music but would not actively avoid these if present and the core stuff was done well
It would be great if it was keenly priced
At the moment most of the players seem to be going through a bad patch in delivering “core” functionality
I am hoping my pre-ordered Polar Vantage V won’t disappoint but I have had a lot of disappointments recently
I often wear two watches – the M430 for MPZ workout timings with a another (Spartan or F3) for nav and power
It would be great to have just one reasonable looking watch that did it all
My parrot has learned to “OK Google”
He just put on Parrot Man song radio on Spotify
The term “bashing” implies a hidden agenda
My F5+ had awful GPS performance (not just mediocre – it was unusable) and my experience was not unique (take a look at the posts complete with supporting GPS route uploads)
This might be a QC issue rather than by design
I have no way of knowing as I just sent it back
As far as proof is concerned – that would require a rigorous statistical analysis of tracks from a large number of devices
Strava could do it but won’t because that is not in their commercial interest
Fellrnr has done this on representative devices but his results are fiercely contested because of his methodology (Ray gets pretty fired up about them which is unusual as he is usually pretty measured) I agree Fellrnr scored an own goal using smart recording but nonetheless I think he is pretty near the mark
The F3 is a pretty good buy and is a good all rounder
GPS is middling but on a par with the SS and S9
Don’t bother with the F3 HR as this is a cadence locker and FirstBeat then generates junk numbers
link to dcrainmaker.com
I have obtained a few URLs that link directly to the adverse experiences with the F5+ expressed on Ray’s site to save you having to trawl through yourself
link to dcrainmaker.com
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link to forums.garmin.com
I think you’d probably want to consider how valuable you feel your past Fenix 3 data in Garmin is
While it’s technically possible (sorta) to move some of that data to Suunto
Is this review applicable to the newer versions such as the Suunto 9 G1 Baro GPS
So this review is technically is the G1 Baro
have you heard anything about custom workouts from Suunto
Any effort I have made to make contact with Suunto has been very low-yield
It is the one thing holding me back from buying this watch
and with Garmin dropping the prices on the 5 and 5 plus I am not really going to wait much longer
For a high-end GPS watch to not allow me to create a multi-step run seems like a terrible misstep for a company
I have an SSU which overall is a pretty decent watch
The lack of complex phased training constrained by hr
pace or power is a major drawback and stops me using this watch exclusively
It is a rather backward step as the A3P supported phased workouts on the mobile app (badly!) and it was also pretty easy to knock up an app to do this (such as phased trg with Stryd with power constraints)
Agree with your last sentence but that is just my tuppence ha’penny worth (100 x 2.5/240 * 1.29 = ?
I haven’t heard anything about structured workouts in more depth coming to the Suunto platform
I do agree that as Suunto aims to position itself more focused on the ‘serious athlete’
I was quite surprised as I emailed them about once very other week and it took at least 3 or 4 days to get a very generic response
To me it seems like there are no plans to add a focused interval feature on this watch…
We understand you wanted to have an in-depth interval work-out setup for this model
The watch is designed to have this feature simplified and can be configured on the go focusing on the most customized and focused parameters during intense work-outs
Please know that we strive to improve the features of our products
and we greatly appreciate all the valuable ideas that you share
It would be our pleasure to share with you any future plans to further develop the Interval function of our Suunto 9
It makes sense that I’m probably not going to set up a complex workout when I go out for a trail run
but I can’t get to the mountains every morning
I just got a new Suunto 9 Baro Black and the battery drowns very fast!!!
it just stays on my desk and battery just goes down
How it could last ~50hours in GPS mode during a workout
Suunto 9 has half the mAh battery of the SSU and relies on a more frugal GPS and other power management features to get the long workout times
I also noted the battery drained much faster than I expected when used just as a watch at around 7-8% day
My old A3P only lost around 2-3% per day in watch mode
If it is using battery faster than that there may be a hardware issue
I don’t know the battery technology but if NiCad they can develop a memory and a full discharge and recharge (say overnight) may help
Suunto will replace the battery for free if the device is less than a year old and there have been fewer than 300 charge discharge cycles
you say the battery will work as it said in the specifications during a workout with GPS
My experience is that all manufacturers tend to be a little generous with their stated battery life (save the SA3P)
If it is way off and fully discharging and recharging makes no difference then I presume you have a dud and should return it for free battery replacement or new device or refund
the battery will drain much faster than my previous Ambit 2
It is quite annoying to see though I get that it is because the battery is smaller than the Spartan and Ambit
the battery life matches pretty much what Suunto announced
I have some questions related to Suunto 9:
Did they ever enable an auto start/stop feature
Echoing the sentiment of Ray from his open water swim video
I’m not pleased to have purchased a watch that was still in beta
After a 4 yrs of development I would have expected a more finished product
It really is curious to me why both Polar and Suunto released watches to compete with Garmin that lack the features of even the 935 or 735
I can understand music and other extraneous features like payment options
But this comes down to a fundamental aspect of like not being able to use the watch in a convenient fashion
Neither Suunto or Polar have the development teams/sizes to compete on features anymore
development teams/sizes is a result of essentially how much revenue a company makes
So it’s basically a circle of life thing
and Polar showed with the M400 back in the day
Will be interesting to see how Android wear will impact things in the future
the hardware isn’t there now but seems like its just a matter of time till the hardware that is available for android wear watches will get low enough in power needs that it could become the base of a sports watch and have enough battery life
etc allowing development resources to concentrate on the athletic part which is really just an app (so easier development resources too)
I totally agree and have said this before on here
I believe the Amazefit Stratos is Android based under the hood (perhaps heavily moded) and there are existing hacks to install APKs so clearly it is both possible and can be consistent with reasonable battery life as the biggest drain is the led screen on most wear devices
Wear OS seems more frugal than Android Wear and my M600 will go a couple of days on a full charge now
The familiar Polar interface is merely a Wear app executed by a button press (so could you put it on an Amazfit device I wonder??) I suspect both Suunto and Polar have undergone a painful ground zero transition to develop something like an OS with the SSU and now the Vantage
That will presumably allow them to port existing code forward onto new hardware (just as Garmin have been doing since the FR920) and just keep accreting new functionality like a snowball
Seems like a lot of duplicated effort if Wear OS could do the job but they must have their reasons
perhaps licensing fees (I wonder if Xiaomi pay Google?)
Of course they would then support third party apps and watch faces
It may sadly be too late for Suunto and Polar
link to reddit.com
Do you mean when the watch got an upgrade to the newer OS
If they put a transflective display on it and developed the Polar Wear App further it would I think would have been the way forward for Polar who now seem to be struggling with their first foray into their own real time OS in the Vantage series which after 4 yrs is way of being ready to release (though they have!)
Although originally only lasting around a day I would still get around 8 hours with 1s GPS sampling on an activity
Developing a good RTOS is really hard – a strange thing to do if you are a small software team and a huge overhead for a small company
Huawei or Garmin although many would argue that they too have their problems
Wear OS is not perfect and of course WatchOs is great but Apple are going to keep that to themselves
but both Polar and Suunto removed features from watches
I can partially understand in Suunto’s case as they are rolling into a new user interface
Which watch is more accurate about distance and current speed/pace the suunto 9 baro or the Garmin fenix 5+
Something I do love about this watch is the FusedTrack feature
but basically what it does is takes very few GPS data points
and collects a bunch of other metrics from the watch to calculate all running data
It is not nearly as accurate as just a plain GPS track on the watch
but if you have limited battery life or are going out for an all-day run
I have run with friends with the Fenix and we always get data +/- 5% of one another on courses with relatively known distances and both watches are really close to the known distance
One time I’ve noticed that this watch out-performs my friends’ watches is under less than ideal conditions in terms of weather or trees
In both cases the Suunto is far more accurate
but when there are tall buildings involved
I have the Suunto 9 Baro and the Fenix 5s+ is on the way
but it was always off on my current speed pace which i want a little more accurate information
I guess between these two watches i’m looking for the one that will be most accurate distance and current pace
The extras are that the Suunto has a lot better battery but the Fenix has better apps like maps
Suunto did just comment on their own IG that they are working on connectivity between their new app and other third party sources (strava,TP…)
but it indicates to me that they are trying to keep other’s expectations low while maintaining a good long-term goal
This won’t affect GPS accuracy as that is a hardware issue
but as for the lack of features and functionality
I wouldn’t be surprised if as the watch ages it becomes much more functional
In the Polar Vantage-forum I was curious about the brightness of the screen and issues with it for “older” people with eyes that aren’t as good anymore… It seems that it becomes difficult for a lot of people to see the info on the screen
and after looking at the Suunto 9 I’m curious how this is with that watch
So my question is for people who have used this Suunto and maybe compared it to the Polar (Vantage)
and maybe also are getting problems with the eyes (sighh): what do you think of the screen (eg brightness
I would not only want to use it while sporting but also for everyday use
I honestly can’t tell a difference between the two in the cases you mentioned
the only problem I have is with sunglasses
I feel like the Garmin is better than in this case
The backlight might not be quite as strong in the Suunto
I have 20/500 vision and can see the screen without corrective vision if it’s within 3 ft
but for accuracy consider enabling GLONASS which is now an option as per latest firmware
GLONASS option is hidden in the global NAVIGATION menu (not any nav options specific to a sport)
i’m not normally a glonass fan but this seems to work well for the S9
this should cure your ‘inaccurate’ problem…#maybe
the S9’s glonass option was first available on monday of this week
If I look at my gpx file from yesterday two **consecutive** data points appear like this from the middle of the run
You assert “track recording is inaccurate”
Are you sure that the RECORDING is inaccurate
Have you eliminated by checking other file formats
eg FIT file may be created with greater frequency of data points
this update affects Spartan Ultra and Spartan Trainer
“If I look at my gpx file from yesterday two **consecutive** data points appear like this from the middle of the run”
Note that there are (and have been for a long-time) some weird .FIT and .TCX file export bugs from Movescount
but can also impact track points from time to time
Suunto is aware of it (both myself via the DCR Analyzer and Strava have brought it up)
It can cause some issues with how data is on 3rd party platforms
So when in doubt you always want to triple-check on Movescount
there’s really no excuse for it at this point
It’s not hard to note put more than two data points into the same second (one of which is sometimes null)
On movescount web also does not match what is shown in graphs under map and what is exported to GPX and other files
If you have longer moves there is also in movescount longer interval between points in HR
Polar flow has much more detailed view up to 1 second resolution
I just try to understand how suunto presents my training data
i’m not sure where to find them but I can confirm that they will be on your phone in the same .json.gz format
Does Suunto 9 have a post-phase data screen that informs you about elapsed time and/or distance a couple seconds before WITH SOUND (as Garmin has 5 secs before you end/start every phase) into the interval training sessions
If there isn’t a specific function only available on the 9, I say get the Ultra! I posted a comment at the end of the review page link to dcrainmaker.com
I am light skinned but I found the WOHR on the S9 unusable so I bet you would end up using a strap or a Scosche/OH1
The SSU has a better GPS (if a little power hungry compared with the Sony) but this is offset by a battery twice the capacity of the S9
Apart from the power management the S9 and SSU have virtually identical firmware but you are right to suspect Suunto may choose to minimally develop it if at all to encourage people to move on to the S9
That said it is a fairly complete product now
You are probably aware that there are no apps beyond the A3/vertical but that may not be a consideration for you
I also note that Suunto updated the firmware mid Nov and added new features including graphs in custom activity profiles and a watch face lifted from the 9 so it is clearly still being actively developed benefitting from development on the S9 with which it shares so much in firmware
I have some strange calorie consumption values under 12 hour HR chart after last 2.5.18 fw update
I have a similar problem with 2.5.18 fw on SSSWHR
do you know if there is a ay to use one of my previous activities for navigation (like with ambit3)
I sent my Suunto 9 back because the sensor picks up cadence not heart rate when running
I made a (terrible) video on Youtube to demonstrate this
The Fenix 5 is not much better as it suffers from the same problem – thick heavy watch syndrome (THWS)
The FR935 is better but not great because of its inferior sensor
The best WOHR I have found is on the Polar M430
Burying the extremity of a large GPS antenna in the strap not only gives good GPS reception but also creates a stable platform for the WOHR
If you are doing serious training using HR then sadly I still think you need a chest strap (or Scosche or OH1) as the optical tech isn’t there yet (if it ever will be)
link to youtube.com
I had this issue on my first/2nd run with the Suunto 9 baro
it calibrated after this (it came up with a notification) and now seems much better
It seems to calibrate for each activity type
A solution is to return the Suunto Smart Belt and buy a Polar H10
got a complete new system (watch and HR belt) but keep seing strange thing
HR over 240 while my max is around 170 (I’m 65)
dropping HR (20-40 beats) when the speed/intensity remained the same
HR arround my HR at rest during hard exercise
EPOC sudden started dropping while HR remained the same
big steps in EPOC (not 1-2 units increase but sometimes 20 units
Finaly I bought the Polar H10 HR belt and now the problems are over
the HR graphs are much smoother (Firstbeat Athlete (training software)) and het error% reported by Firstbeat Athlete is much lower
With the Suunto belt is was quite often between 20-40% and sometimes even over 50% and with the Polar H10 it is in average 1-2% (max I have seen so far was 6% over 25 sessions)
as I know what I am doing now and have no irritation about stupid readings and not able to control the way I am training
I have reported this to Suunto last week and told them their HR sensor is not reliable
I see 2 options: the Suunto Smart belt (80 euro) or the wahoo tickr (50 euro)
I have both and prefer the TICKR just because it can also transmit ANT+
I have an Ambit 3 Peak and I’m thinking of replacing with either the Garmin Fenix 5Plus / 5 or Suunto9
Friends have the garmin and I find their swim stats much more reliable
My Suunto Ambit3 is forever dropping 25m when in the pool
When I import the pool swim into Strava & Training Peaks Im down on my total distance
All in all their pool algorithm needs improving
Do you know if Suunto have improved this with the S9
Id be happy to buy the S9 as their customer support is 10/10
I have had issues with their HR belts and since I got my watch they have sent me 2 replacements for free over the 5 years Ive had it
Im a bit concerned too about the new Suunto App
though they have promised all my previous moves will be ported over
Suunto has updated it’s iOS app to ver 1.6.0 that enables uploading gpx route for navigation
If you click a link to a .gpx file in Safari
If you have a gpx track downloaded to your phone
click the share/export button and select Copy to Suunto
In both cases the track will appear on your Suunto app where you can sync in to the watch
I find my Spartan Wrist HR display to be shockingly bad
always use them in great detail when choosing a new watch/device
I’ve been a Suunto user for many years but recently bought the 9 Baro
but couldn’t have been more disappointed
They really shouldn’t have released it as it just doesn’t function well in so many aspects
I like being loyal to the producers that I use… So far
Apologies if this has been discussed already
I need to transfer my Movescount moves across to Garmin Connect
When pulling in mass (Fit) it seems to error out
Manually as GPX work well but would take me months to complete…
Is there a way to do this in bulk and a lot easier and cleaner
Could you give some specifics on what you didnt like with the 9Baro
Im on the verge of upgrading my Ambit 3 Peak… but have some reservations
The swimming algorithm is pretty poor on the Ambit
and I seem to go through HR belts way too quickly
and even the last one is only a few months old and its giving erroneous HR data now too
Itd be great to know what made you switch to the only other viable option – the Fenix5
I also used the Ambit 3 Peak for many years
Loved that watch… I was waiting on Suunto releasing a watch to upgrade
The biggest issue I had was the Barometer/altitude readings
One night hill run it said I had descended 113k in ft
Trying to get help from Suunto wasn’t easy
all seemed well (as a daily tracker!) but when I started to use it for a run
it just crashed on me when wearing as normal
Soft & hard reset didn’t work and the watch pretty much stayed in the reset mode
only thing we can do is take it back and fix
This was kind of the straw on the camels back
Suunto seems to lack in so many other areas but if the watch is solid and works well
I don’t really need all the frills (Music
HR Wrist I felt was unusable apart from a daily tracker
The spike that DC talks about happened with me at the start of each run
Suunto App seems like it could become good
Apparently the Movescount moves will sync across in Spring
Suunto movies etc you can’t use on the new app…
I bought the Fenix 5x Plus because of the extra battery life compared to other in the range
It’s also got great functions but in general it just works and feels a lot smoother in every aspect
Everything just seems in place and works correctly
I didn’t want to swap from Suunto but so far
As long as I can figure out a way of transferring my moves
the screen is better than the Fenix but that’s about it
Im sorry for your troubles – sounds like you got a bad deal
my heart Suunto – but this messing around with Suunto app
and phasing out Movescount is a really bad idea
it’ll be interesting to see how 4 years of Moves port over…
The Garmin app on the other hand is very nice – I like the way they present the data etc
Suunto app just looks like something more suited to the Fitbit / social media market
Friends have the Fenix and their swim stats always seem to be spot on – both indoor & outdoor
Mine are always erratic – with indoor swimming dropping 25m lengths regularly
Customer loyalty isnt enough as the sole reason to buy the S9
It’d be great to hear of other users experiences – you may have just had a bad build….
just use rungap if you are on ios – very easy to use
It looks like I am facing the same issues with my Suunto 9 Baro
the altitude measurement has become very noisy on occasion
This does not result in a very wrong altitude
but it does result in an elevation gain that may be completely off
it has shown an elevation gain of 1000m for an expected elevation gain of 500m
I have been in touch with Suunto support three times so far
I got it back with a note saying that nothing abnormal has been found
I have tried it right away and the elevation gain was way off again
I have sent my altitude records for inspection
And I’ve got an email back with instructions how to wear the watch
It felt like my problem has not been treated seriously and I was a bit upset
I have started doing some experiments alternating between right and left arm for wearing the watch
There seems to be some correlation: so far
the issue has confirmed itself on the right arm
But not being able to get the correct elevation gain may force me to have a closer look at the competition
Have never seen this myself but I swim with mine often and rinse and dry it after each training session
by wearing the watch upside-down on the right arm (i.e
with the buttons facing the hand and the baro sensor facing the elbow)
I am exercising on a daily basis and have not run into the issue under those conditions
this question might have been asked before so sorry if I repeat it again
Is Suunto planning to bring running performance parameter to Suunto 9 or is that going to be a thing in the past for ambit series
Sorry if this is in here somewhere already
but how can I see vo2 max estimates on the Suunto 9
On http://www.movescount.com after synchronization
there is in each activity details estimated VO2 max
unfortunately I’ve made the mistake of syncing with the newer Suunto App(can’t seem to find vo2 there) per Suunto’s recommendation
I will uninstall and go back to Movescount while I still can
you could sync diretly with http://www.movescount.com through suuntolink
I can not decide wheter buy Suunto 9 (non Baro) – 410 EUR or Garmin fenix 5 (non sapphire) – 330 EUR
My sport activities are: anaerobic exercise in gym + stacionary bike
Walking in nature and sometimes hiking (10 times a year)
I have a question regarding the compatibility of a PowerTap P1S with the Suunto 9 watch
I can pair the pedal but the callibration fails
Therefore the watts shown on the watch are too high
Assuming when you calibrate you’re not clipped into the pedal (can’t do that)
then try calibrating with the PowerTap mobile app
Just ensure that the Suunto unit isn’t actively connected to it at the same time
I tried it twice this afternoon without being successful…the values are stil way too high
Is there a list with compatible power meters for the Suunto 9
I didn’t find anything on the Suunto website
I also tried to contact the Suunto support
I haven’t seen one in a long-long while (a list)
i’m willing to bet if you contacted Suunto support they’d be able to wrangle one up
The only thing I could find is the Rouvy app
I have a Suunto 9 Baro and have big issues with the HR measurement (with Suunto Smart Belt)
I transfer my data to Firstbeat Athlete and more then half of my training sessions contain that much errors (FB athlete shows that) that a EPOC cannot be calculated and the “value” of the session is clear
During sessions the HR starts rising without changing training intensity sometime
which is way over my maximum HR of about 180 (I am 65 years old)
With my old Suunto T6 HR spikes when doing interval training where shown on the watch and clearly displayed in the graphs
Only in a few instances this happens in Suunto 9
The Suunto 9 have some nice advanced features compared to the Suunto T6 but the HR measurement is crap which makes the watch worthless for serious training
I have been discussing these issues with Suunto Customer Service for over 5 months now
but they seem not to be able to solve the problem
At this moment Suunto HQ is dealing with the issue
My heart rate goes over the top in the middle of a relaxed run
I had an Ambit 3 and never had such an issue
It is such a shame that Suunto is failing on these basic functionalities
My only hope that they will fix these with an update soon
I was rather satisfied with the Suunto T6 for 7-8 years
I wanted to upgrade with new features (GPS etc) and wanted to stay with Suunto
An important reason for choosing the Suunto 9 was it displays live EPOC during the training session
Suunto Spartan has that to but I have not found it in other brands
I use this to regulate my speed/training-intensity during my training sessions
I am very disapointed that newer and further developed device is performing so badly and join you in hoping Suunto will solve this
I really just use the wrist HR as a guide though – and not as the gospel
Might just be that your skin / wrist / watch position isn’t ideal = odd readings
As a side note – I had the Garmin instinct very recently and sold it to a friend because it gave me really messed up HR and elevation stats
Still have the same issue with HR measurement after one year
etc… the measurement will get creasy at some stage ( see my post dated October 17
A new watch and HR-belt Suunto send me did not solve it
but I have bought a Polar H10 HR-belt and now the system works fine
When I transfer .fit files to Firstbeat Athlete the average error percentage is 1.2% over 21 measurements now
With the Suunto Smart Belt is was almost every time over 10% and many times between 20 and 40% and sometimes over 50%
The graphs are more smooth and I can use the system to pace my training sessions and the planning of session
My conclusion is that the Suunto Smart Belt is not reliable
I have informed Suunto about this and I am curious what their reaction and actions will be
I am sattisfied with the system I have now and my training sessions are more relaxed now (I know what I am doing and don’t get annoyed by stupid measurements)
A new watch and HR- belt did not solve the problem
Buying a Polar H10 HR-belt solved the problem
no more sussed drops in EPOC when cycling or rowing with the same speed/intensity
It looks like I have a reliable system now and my training sessions are more relaxed (I know what I am doing now and don’t get annoyed by stupid readings on my watch)
I have informed Suunto about this solution and I am curious about the reaction and actions of Suunt
Both to me and towards product improvement
Thank you for the detailed review on th Suunto 9 Baro
Can you please include 3 feature in all your review and comparison sheet
Mostly related to Ultra traverse and multi day sport and Adventure rasing
I don’t care about ‘music from my watch’ and NFC payments – so to me those features are just a waste of processing power and battery life
the incredible battery life and battery features are a huge plus
The elevation graphs seem to be pretty accurate and for the most part the HR is accurate enough for my needs
I love the battery charging reminders too – a small feature which is pretty useful
The above is even more NB for me because my main sport is trail running/road running
I own and use different GPS watches for two decades
I had high hope with this new Suunto 9 for its advertised GPS usage time and performance because there are some good reviews on the web
Even the official web site mentioned the company had tested it for a thousand hours for its accuracy
it is interesting to know how the Sony GPS chip is
Most leading GPS products on the market are still not with Sony GPS chips
First thing I immediately noted was its positioning and speed errors
It typically has at least 20m error and is not uncommon to get even 100m error or so
So I hardly get my starting point and finishing point at the same location
It has a function called Trace Back that I tried many times
But the direction and distance are not accurate
The reported speed of my walking and other activities are problematic too
it takes at least 10 seconds before it could go down to zero speed
It is so lagging compared to my other GPS watches
This is caused by accumulated errors over time
Cold start TTFF (time to first fix) is not very good
Typical is 40~90s while the best watch I have is between 20~30s
it took more than 5 mins for the Cold start TTFF
I was at outside in front of the door of my house
Although there are some blocking by houses nearby and trees
so the GPS signal is still reasonably good
I can conclude the GPS sensitivity of the Suunto 9 is below the industry’s norm
The heart rate is also not accurate at all
So easy to get above 100 and even high at 140
I have RF and wireless engineering background
With nowadays silicon technologies and processing power
Surely this watch got noise influence inside that it is detrimental to the whole system with many of the noise-sensitive applications
GPS is the most sensitive commercial device on earth surface
It needs special attention to doing good design
GPS usage time is only about 24 hours for performance mode
it runs out of battery after a few days of my regular running routines
Making not much different to others that I still need to charge the watch for every two or three days
the battery would die if I forgot to charge it in between
Do you know what the refresh rate is for Suunto
Do you think we can expect a ‘Suunto 10’ Soon
I have a Spartan Ultra and would really like to upgrade as the screen resolution is driving me mad
when i am doing an activity i dont see a way to turn on the backlight without either pausing the activity
Pressing any button will result in backlight on plus an extra action
According the manual you’d have to tap the screen
In backlight-toggle mode you’d have to tap with two fingers
I have the same problem with my new Baro 9
Has anyone had trouble calibrating their Suunto 9 to accurately measure treadmill distance
I’m getting a 40 to 50% underestimate of distance compared to the treadmill itself
I am frustrated with not being able to calibrate my Suunto 9 to accurately measure my treadmill distance
I am only able to change my distance in mySuunto app but not on the watch itself
I am not able to change the distance on the watch
Does anyone know where to view the vo2 max estimate
Only on Movescount and only if you sync to Movescount
You won’t be able to get it from the Suunto app nor the Sportstracker platform
I am now having trouble getting my Suunto 9 to read heart rate from my chest strap instead of from the wrist sensor
I just put in a new battery thinking that was the issue
I then unpaired and re-paired the chest strap to the watch
the watch found the strap quickly and paired
wait for the watch to find the strap…nothing
In movescount sports profile HR setting must be checked use HR
I have checked the “Use HR” in all my sports modes
I get a HR reading from the HR belt when I attach my watch in my boat (rowing) or on my bike steer
but in many occasions the HR displayed is not correct and is up to 50 beats/min lower compared to the reading on my old Suunto T6
My best guess is that the bluetooth connection does not functions well
They have added Galileo support in update 2.8.24
It’s optional and can be activated instead of Glonass
Does anyone know how the gps+galileo option compares to the gps+glonass option that was used in this review
Suunto has a great sale going on right now including their high end watches such as the 9 and 9 Baro
I’m experiencing the same problems as reported by GPS user after nearly one year with the Suunto 9 Baro
The only positive thing with this watch is the quality of the watch glass and the black watch bezel which are both brand new
This can happen anytime when you start the race or not
whatever the position of the watch on your wrist
But you are not at the end of your troubles… It will continue back home with Suunto App which is very poor compare to Garmin and only available on phone
Synchronization is not compatible with Movescount which will be discontinued next year
customized activity of 43 hours (UTMB 2019) do not synchronize with Suunto App
Ticket has been opened with Suunto with no answer ( Issue is reported by many users this Summer 2019) And of course you do not have access anymore at the function “Customize activity” because the synchronization do not stop !
If you use SuuntoLink (link to suunto.com)
you can have access to the moves on your PC (see my earlier above comment to see where the .json.gz files are deposited)
You can also ignore Suunto’s online and offline apps and instead use:
link to goldencheetah.org
I can absolutely assure you that switching to Garmin (Fenix range or 935/945) you WILL see major issues in other areas – I’ve used the Baro9 and various Garmin watches
I suggest you stay with the Baro9 – I have no reason to lie to you
but my experience is Suunto bugs are few and far between
GoldenCheetah is a good software but I find it too centered for cycling (I run more than I cycle and dont cycle with a power meter)
I tried charging the watch when it arrived using the USB on my computer (Apple MacBook) and it would not charge
I downloaded SuuntoLink and it would not recognize the watch either
I downloaded SuuntoLink on my office computer (an HP running windows 10) and had the same issues
It wouldn’t recognize my watch or charge it
I finally tried an usb charger on an outlet in my home with no luck
I sent it back to Amazon and ordered a replacement
The second one arrived and everything was fine
I charged the watch and set it up through My Suunto
It worked fine for about a week and a half
Neither or my computers would recognize the watch
I tried cleaning the contacts but that didn’t seem to help
I am a bit surprised to have an issue with two separate watches as I have always had good luck with Suuntos
I have worked with Suunto’s customer support but they haven’t been able to help
Has anyone else had charging issues with their Suunto 9 Baros or am I just unlucky
I am a little nervous about the reliability of this model after having trouble with two watches back to back
I have not had any charging issues and I did order from Amazon as well
I’ve hd only Polars before and I have had time to get to the logic of the user interface
Also I don’t like much either of the websites
I guess once the websites integrates they’ll become better
You can find pretty much everything from the watch itself
Like me getting to know the user interface after coming from Polar V800 has taken some time
BTW: Was great meeting you at the ESA Open Day last sunday :)
I’ve had black Suunto 9 Baro for month now and I have to post a comment
I had previously Polar V800 which I was really satisfied on except for the barometer which went broke
I had several Polars and used them for a decade almost
I knew the logic and liked the web interface both for old and new
It was really disappointed for my first Suunto at the beginning
The screen brightness was actually the first thing
If it’s off on “Do not disturb” -mode
if you know when it is on “Do not disturb” -mode
the optical heart rate monitor shows way less than real heart rate is for me
it will get it corect after a minute or so
which I think is more than it took for Polar V800
Not sure how important it is to have hearth rate on web
The watch has 24 hour and that is not available on web
but the Suunto App does show your avarage and minimal bpm during night sleep
that if my night time heart rate is above normal
I only used the watch for hiking and biking
It does show my 10k commute around 300m longer than Polar did
I might switch to GPS only instead of GPS+Galileao
when it’s not on “Do not disturb” -mode
You get way more information from watch itself than you would with Polar
I think Polar has very intuitive user interface whereas Suunto does not
The uunto Sports-Tracker and even Movescount are something I don’t really enjoy
I’m very happy I bought this watch though
but I’m really satisfied with this watch
After two weeks of usage I was going to return it
thinking of buying 9 Baro Titanium or Polar Vantage In Titanium
I’m not 100% certain and I can’t really tell
that after lst update I have been extremely satisfied with the watch itself as well as Suunto App
Sport-Tracker doesn’t give you really anything and Movescount is discontinued
That said I like the fact that I can get everything from the watch itself
I guess if you want some change to Polar then go to Suunto like I did
You can always go back to Polar after few years
I think it’s good to see other platforms than just one
I was almost 10 years with Polar and wanted to see something different for a while
I certainly do appreciate Polar’s web site and Flow’s capabilities now
But at the moment I’m very satisfied I picked Suunto 9 Baro after all
garmin and Polar and Vantage V is the worst watch concerning GPS accuracy especialy if you go on not so open area like park
I have made so many comparisons and for 1 km the difference is between 200 -350m less every time
And that ruins every other data – pace
the all time worst has to be the Magellan Switch Up
i have problems with Treadmill activity: The watch is calibrated (i have already run outdoor and the watch says me that it is calibrate) but the distance after 1 hour of activity is 0 kilometer
I have a few questions about the Suunto 9
For some reason my battery life is horribile
no 24 hour heart tracking (just the interval tracking)
no constant backlight and sleeptracking turned off
but I can hardly believe it’s eating so mutch battery
I live in the Netherlands where it’s winter atm
so when I want to see the time I’d have to unlock the watch and if it’s rainy
Is there a way to lock the watch in “normal” mode
Is there a way to turn the backlight on without messing with other settings
Can I customize sportsmodes without creating a new one
For example the traditional clock watchface but instead of sunrise and sunset
24×7 HRM I get one week of battery life
Watch is connected to my phone and syncs everything automatically through Bluetooth
To get backlight when dark I just press the middle button once
but occasionally yes because of the touch screen
Yes it would be nice to lock the screen with holding upper or lower button when on watch face mode
You should be able to do that with Movescount
Battery should definitely much longer if you don’t
you’ll get prompted the question to ‘always stay connected’
the phone and watch are constantly looking for each other
Resulting in battery drain for both devices
I turned the connection off and now my watch only uses about 10% on a regular day (without GPS)
It uses 1% overnight (while idle on my nightstand) while this used to be 8%
A lot of people seem to complain about this
#1 My watch is connected to watch all the time so I receive notifications from phone
I still get the one week battery life with 24×7 heart rate monitoring
even though I turned the ‘always connected’ setting off
So I don’t know what that setting does
I reported it to Suunto and they’ve said I am not the first one reporting it
Hardly uses battery and don’t have to click any button
My Suunto 9’s battery drain dramatically increased after the latest firmware update – might be coincidental
I used to get at least a 7-10 days’ worth of battery using bluetooth
I decided to quit using it and see what happens when the watch sits doing nothing
The watch goes from 100% charge to switching itself off with a drained battery warning in about one week
My 5 year old Ambit2 can last months for in a drawer
and my Spartan Ultra lasts for at least a month when it is doing nothing
Either something is wrong with the Suunto 9 battery management or Suunto is selling defectives watches
One feature that I’ve been really keen on is the Garmin ClimbPro
Being able to see your climbs broken up and how much you have left seems really awesome
When you use a course/route on your watch during an activity
the ClimbPro feature detects the major climbs along the route
during a climb it shows you total elevation remaining
I would love to see this feature in Suunto
This is one of the main reasons I am contemplating switching to Garmin
There is a similar screen in Suunto when in a planned route activity
When in the activity use middle button to scroll through screens and I think it is the last screen
with next synchrozitation it again change to 1
And I think it has influence to Kcal count
In the Suunto app you can turn the route off from syncing to the watch
it wont show same stats as in the separate sports mode…after T1 on Cycling it wont show cadence nor speed
you dont know how fast you´re going!on triathlon mode only time and distance are shown…any help?¡
Is it possible to customize multisport activities
But COVID-19 has significantly impacted most companies product release plans for this year
Just purchased the Suunto 9 after about 8 years using the Suunto Ambit 2 to record all my bike rides
But it does not have the ability to show the grade (slope) of the ride
Spoke to Suunto and their customer support was no help
Seems like you get grade info on the skiing mode but not on the bike mode
I am getting worried that your comments about lack of software features are coming true
What are the differences between the Suunto 9 Baro Black and the Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
Hey Ray … I know you’ve said you think companies are 2-6 months behind with Covid
would you be expecting an update to the Suunto 9 at this point
which keeps bringing me back to the 9 to replace my Ambit 3 Peak … but I’m also hesitant to pull the trigger on 2-year old hardware
but I’ll take your shots in the dark—thanks for all the awesome news and updates
Has the sony chipset worked out all the bugs
I also heard it was sometimes great sometimes bad
Trying to see which way to go with limited funds during a COVID economy
I bought AMBIT3 peak when it 1st came out been great but last 6 months hasn’t been
or thinking Coros apex 46mm or Polar vantage V
But if Suunto 9 is working goo I’ll look for a deal
Also Suunto has not been hacked as Garmin just was (fingers crossed)
Which might not be as much their fault as the fault of my 47 year-old eyes … But I’m about to buy my first-ever Garmin
I purchased a Baro 9 a couple of weeks back
Heart rate is the worst of all watches over the past 30 years
for the initial 15 minutes of my run the optical HR told me i was between 162 and 193
The other issue is that during my run the HR section on the watch display is often blank … no reading
My previous watch a Polar M430 never displayed this behavior
I have contacted Suunto tech but no help other than suggestions to do a soft reset
The only options are to return or to purchase a chest strap which I would rather not invest in if the problem persists or return and purchase a Polar or Garmin
Anyone out there with similar experience with this piece of crap or suggestions
I’m afraid I have similar experience with Suunto OHR
I get problems with all brands but for me Suunto is the worst so I gave up and got a Polar OH1 which is the best alternative to a chest strap I would say
Does anyone know how to set a POI while RECORDING an Activity
This seems like a basic feature that should exist
Also why does the mobile app not support creating routes and syncing them with your Suunto 9 Baro
Press the bottom right button to bring up the options
You can do this while RECORDING an Activity
I’d tried going to breadcrumbs and doing a long press on the center button but never thought to do this
I had a chat session with Suunto tech support and they said there was no way to do this
The Suunto mobile App (iOS) supports both route creation and GPX imports and then syncing to your watch
I generally am a single sport per activity user but have you tried the multi sport mode – switching modes as you go
Not sure what you mean by doing it with intervals
There are intervals you can assign to a profile but the max is 50
You also have to turn intervals every time
and start them separately from starting a run
On a garmin device you just set run/walk up on your run profile and start your run
it’s very simple and intuitive and I would have thought Suunto wod have something similar but they don’t and I didn’t catch that in ray’s review
Do you think the Suunto 9 will ever feature music like Spotify so you don’t have to carry a phone
I would doubt the 9 would – as the hardware would have to be able to support it
So… has anyone actually managed to configure a Custom Battery Mode for best GPS mode and 42 hours estimated like in the example pictures
what I miss about this watch is the ability to:
Saw Lucy Bartholomew on Strava uses a Suunto 9 and I was fascinated that her swim recorded HR
Asked her and she kindly replied that it is from the wrist
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Always been a Suunto fan for them being a strong challenger of Polar and Garmin
However lately I’ve been experiencing some serious issues with my GPS during runs
Halfway the run it’s all of a sudden way off track and then jumping back on
indicating I’m supposedly running 1’30”/km (I wish ?)
I have the impression it got worse in last software update
I do sync my watch before every run to make sure that GPS is optimized
I know its been a while since you wrote it
but im one of the dinosaurs still wearing a ambit2
They (suunto) offered a 50% discount on suunto 9 baro for us still holding on to the classics
I do not see those issues using the internal/wrist HR monitor
It does spike a bit initially but quickly settles down
Same with GPS never an issue with obtaining signal
I do however do a app sync shortly before each run
On the days I haven’t I still do not have a prolonged time to get GPS lock
This is my third Suunto and I do not see any reason to change
Is the suunto 9 baro still a viable option in 2021
or should those in the market for a gps watch hold off buying anything currently
since they killed Movescount so you can no longer upload your activities to your computer
I would have to recommend Garmin over Suunto
Movescount may be gone but the Suunto app is improving regularly and the ability to build/import routes and get them to your watch without a computer is a huge plus
I am sure before long there will be something new out – but the 9’is a solid performer and still getting updates/enhancements
“you can no longer upload your activities to your computer”
You can till upload your activities to computer through the app
From the SA “Export as FIT file”
I still think S9 Baro is viable option at 2021
since there doesn’t seem to be nothing much to add hardware wise
Plus I’m totally happy with my S9 Baro
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Suunto 9 Peak vs Suunto 9 Baro: new vs old
Which wearable wins the title of 'best Suunto watch'
Suunto 9 Peak vs Suunto 9 Baro: which is the best Suunto watch
One might think that the newly released Suunto 9 Peak will perform better than the now 3-years-old Suunto 9 Baro in every way but interestingly enough
the 9 Baro might be a better choice for certain athletes than the 9 Peak
Suunto has an interesting way of naming the different versions of its flagship model
I thought this iterative design will only go on until the company releases the successor of the Suunto 9 but as it turned out
Suunto is quite happy keeping the name and the process as it is
Let's find out how the Suunto 9 Peak vs Suunto 9 Baro differ and most importantly, which one should you buy if you're looking to upgrade your running watch for a Suunto
But first, have a look at our comparison of Suunto and Garmin here: Suunto vs Garmin.
Suunto says that the 9 Peak is "coming soon to Australia" but there is no date confirmed just yet
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The Suunto 9 Peak is the latest iteration of Suunto's flagship watch and also the thinnest
and toughest" watch to date from the Finnish brand
meaning you don't have to plug the watch into the computer to update its software
Plus it has a blood oxygen saturation sensor that tracks just that during sleep
The newer iteration is slimmer and lighter than the 9 Baro
although the display resolution is less impressive (but in line with other watches in the same category)
The Suunto 9 Peak weighs almost 40% less than the 9 Baro (62g and 81g
The resolution went from 320 x 300 pixels on the 9 Baro to 240 x 240 on the 9 Peak
Both watches have led displays but the 9 Peak can adjust the brightness automatically
There are a couple of navigation features found in the 9 Baro that are absent on the 9 Peak
for example bearing navigation you can use outdoors to follow the target path for a location you see or have looked at from map ahead
You can use this feature stand alone as a compass or together with a paper map
The Suunto 9 Peak can record heart rate under water
unlike the 9 Baro that requires a Suunto Smart Heart Rate Belt and Suunto Smart Sensor
The Suunto 9 Peak is a much sleeker watch compared to the 9 Baro although the newer watch kept the button layout and the interface relatively unchanged
The 9 Peak features a smaller watch case and watch face but added stainless steel bezel to the mix
The slimmer watch also comes with a narrower strap (22 mm
the Suunto 9 Baro is better suited for people with larger wrists
the Suunto 9 Peak looks more of a fitness watch such and takes after the Suunto Baro 9 Titanium more than the original (rather bulky) Suunto 9.
Battery life is the same on both watches which is impressive from the Peak 9's point of view as it's much smaller and lighter than the 9 Baro
Both the 9 Peak and the 9 Baro will last for around one week on a single charge while GPS battery life is around 25 hours
This GPS battery life can be extended to up to 170 hours (in 'Tour' mode) but in this case
most sensors are either turned off or reduced to collect data in every hour or so
making this feature only useful for ultra athletes
Both watches feature 'Intelligent charge reminders' which is based on your activity history
use the FusedTrack algorithm that combines GPS and motion sensor data that is said to improve track and distance accuracy
this allows you to extend battery life by lowering GPS power without significantly compromising accuracy and it works but the technology is not without caveats
It's certainly better in areas where the GPS signal is a bit patchy
The Suunto 9 range uses the Valencell heart rate sensor technology which is regarded fairly accurate for a wrist-based system. Valencell works a number big name brands in the fitness industry including Bose
so you can rest assured the technology is not terribly inaccurate
The involvement with Scosche is particularly interesting as the brand is primarily manufactured heart rate sensors so if the Valencell system is good enough for Scosche
Unless you're a large-writed endurance trail runner in need of niche navigation features
it's unlikely you'll want to choose the Suunto 9 Baro over the Suunto 9 Peak
The latter is more in line of what most people want from a multisport watch in 2021: a bunch of sport features and sensors combined with convenience features such as sleep tracking
it's not a problem if the watch looks sleek AF too
What amazes me most about the Suunto 9 Peak is how well it introduces new features and design all the while being completely in line with what I would expect from a top-tier Suunto watch
It offers all the best features of the 9 Baro and some more and retails for less than how much the Suunto 9 BAro used to cost when it came out
Does the Suunto 9 Peak stand a chance still
especially if you like training and racing off the beaten path
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is delivering some of the best in Melbourne’s hip-hop scene to the Sidney Myer Music Bowl stage
and we caught up with the latter to chat all about it
The Aussie rap scene is in a very different place than it was a decade ago
We’ve seen several performers come forward with music that’s new
pushing the boundaries of mainstream attitudes towards hip hop
and forging a new reputation for the Australian scene abroad
Kwame and Genesis Owusu are incorporating sounds from a bevy of different genres
which has led to an influx of artists into the genre
Stay up to date with what’s happening in and around Melbourne here.
Baro notes that due to heavyweights in the global rap scene not sticking to stereotypes in the genre, there’s a box that has been metaphorically broken, which has led to a great deal of performers forcing their way into Australia’s collective consciousness.
“I feel like I’m seeing a lot more good rap acts come out now in Melbourne and Australia,” Baro says. “I feel like now the public and the industry have a lot more space for rap music, and they’re better at judging what’s good and what’s not.
“There seem to be less boxes, ever since we’ve had performers like Tyler, The Creator, Mac Miller, Frank Ocean and Earl Sweatshirt. They’ve taken that box away, rap being one thing, whereas something like rock, it’s a lot more traditional, and there are a lot more constrictions.”
After years away from live shows, many music lovers have found solace in the lyrics of hip hop. The Australian scene is becoming renowned for a constant stream of tracks, so heavily interwoven with emotion and energy, that it’s leading many fans to connect to artists on a recorded level, in a similar way to how they may have at live stages. There seems to be a change in audiences when playing shows in this post-covid world, and Baro’s seen it firsthand.
“Four or five years ago, people would be watching with their arms crossed and just nodding their heads,” Baro adds, “but the other week I performed, and it was really fun. People were dancing and just doing their thing so fearlessly.
“I really hope this energy continues into this new era of music.”
Many of these artists appearing on the SorBaes: Double Dip! bill haven’t had an opportunity to play a stage as big as the Bowl before, which would mean a complete re-calibration of material for many other genres, but as Baro notes, the depth of rap music allows for it to carry across any stage.
“Whether I’m going to be rapping to 10,000 people or 30, I’m still going to have the same energy,” he notes. “My music’s very intimate, and I’m going to present it like that whether I’m on a big stage or not.
“If I’m playing a set at a venue, then it should work at any.”
Baro will be joined by a selection of amazing genre-bending performers at SorBaes: Double Dip! including Barkaa, Jerome Farah, Kira Puru, Lay, Mulalo, Young Rorty, as well as talented DJs Mirasia, Smilez, Soju Gang and Swerv.
The strong camaraderie between members of the local rap scene means there’s a palpable sense of community, respect and appreciation on the line up, and after years of being physically separated from their audiences and themselves, it’s a great opportunity for reconnection on all levels.
“I’m looking forward to seeing Mirasia, she’s real sick, and I’m also excited to see Soju Gang. I haven’t seen her DJ in a minute,” Baro continues.
“We used to see each other everywhere in pre-lockdown times, then we obviously stopped going out and to events when everybody did. Now to come back to music at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl, we’re going straight to the deep end. I’m so excited just to be in that environment.”
One thing is abundantly clear about Baro Sura’s music; it’s an experience. Audiences shouldn’t go in with any expectations, he wants audiences to connect to the words he’s saying in the present.
“I’m from the school of Mac Miller and Tyler, those artists that may or may not be rap or hip hop. I try different things, it goes so many other places,” he says.
“I just hope people can come in and watch with an open mind and appreciate how much thought and hype is put into this, because it’s a lot and I really care about this shit.”
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On Tuesday
it will be two years since President Muhammadu Buhari visited Baro in Niger State to commission the Baro River Port
Daily Trust on Sunday writes on the condition of the port and its host community
Despite the unusually thick security atmosphere in the small coastal town of Baro
the villagers and their neighbours thronged out on the bright Saturday morning to witness a remaking of history
optimistic residents as a port was commissioned
President Muhammadu Buhari was choppered into the small but significant town of Baro
to commission what the administration counted as one of its major achievements
The commissioning was part of activities lined up to demonstrate the accomplishments of the Buhari administration as he rounded off his first term of four years and sought re-election that year
Baro itself is not new to official razzmatazz
who was among the dignitaries that welcomed the president to his domain on that day
he was selected among school children lined up to welcome the late Premier of Northern Nigeria
the emir recalled in an interview with Daily Trust on Sunday that he and his siblings from Agaie travelled to Baro to be part of a welcome party for Queen Elizabeth
Baro was that important because it was not just a little coastal town with a port
it had the uniqueness of having both a port and a train line linking Minna to the hinterland
The hitherto small fishing village soon attracted labourers and merchants from the South and up North
Isiyaku said his grandparents worked for British trading firms since the days of the Royal Niger Company
Another generation of the family worked for latter companies such as John Holt and UAC
They settled in Baro and inter-married with locals
indicating possible origin traceable to Kano
Baro served as a major haulage point for commodity goods
Though he did not witness the booming days of the port
merchants and other fortune hunters were all over the place
The Emir of Agaie said he remembered days of his childhood when Baro was home to “a good number of people engaged in loading and uploading goods.”
including a forlorn post office building standing between the old town and the new port terminal
These artifacts remind residents of Baro and visitors about the great past of the town
with fanfare that the residents of Baro and environs gathered on January 19
2019 with the high hope of reopening the long forgotten chapter in the town’s history
Locals saw it as the long-awaited trip into the golden future that a lot of them only heard about
“I drove many myself that morning from far and near into Baro
who wanted to witness the occasion and catch a glimpse of the president
a man they saw as a messiah for their long cry,” recalled a commercial driver
recalled the euphoria in an interview with Daily Trust on Sunday at the Baro market
“We were all glad to see that the president himself was coming to our community to commission a big project like this,’’ he said
The first glint of hope for the resuscitation of Baro port flashed in December 2008 when the administration of the late President Umaru Musa Yar’adua awarded a N34.8billion contract for the dredging of lower River Niger
The dredging was necessary for the rejuvenation of the two inland ports in Baro and Lokoja
started with the Nigerian civil war in the late 1960s
Hostilities on both sides brought activities to a gradual halt in 1968 after a ship conveying traders undertook a journey of no return
elated when the Yar’adua administration began the process that could potentially bring life back to their town
Government at the time explained that 572km of the river would be dredged across eight states from Delta through Anambra to Niger
The dredging would impact on some 152 communities by easing haulage of goods and trading activities
It was estimated that the dredging and functioning of the ports in Lokoja and Baro would reduce the duration of the journey from Onitsha in Anambra State to Baro to around 90 minutes by speedboat instead of over nine hours it takes by road
The government also awarded the Baro River Port contract in 2009
arriving with a torch of hope for the people
The Emir of Agaie told Daily Trust on Sunday that commencement of work on the site attracted investors who sought to establish all manner of businesses in the area
“Everybody was happy that the lost glory of Baro was coming back
everyone of us would want to go to Baro,” the emir said
The happiness brought by the prospect of dredging the lower River Niger and reviving the Baro port was shortlived
The dredging dragged on for years due to lack of funding and was only revisited in 2011 after much cries by concerned stakeholders and pressure from the media
When the Goodluck Jonathan administration revisited the project
it reviewed the contract sum to about N49billion
as announced by the then minister of transportation
the Jonathan administration could not complete the port project
making it a campaign issue for the then opposition All Progressives Congress (APC)
It is not only the hope and expectation of residents that have dipped with the stalled project
making campaigners and concerned residents wonder why the government would undertake the final push to salvage the huge investment
a transit shed of 3,600 square metres and an estimated capacity of 5,000 TEU at a time
In a motion presented at the Senate in November 2019
bemoaned the condition of the port as he presented a portrait of what is fast fitting the features of a white elephant project
Enagi reminded his colleagues of the staggering N40b expended by the Federal Government to make the port work
While it is unclear how the minister arrived at the figure
it is clear from Daily Trust on Sunday’s findings that the project and issues around it have consumed funds in huge drops
Aside a multibillion naira dredging contract and cost of building the port at Baro
the government variously awarded contract for different aspects of the project
the National Inland Waterways Authority (NIWA)
the agency responsible for ports such as Baro’s
said it was spending N100m on maintenance and dredging of the lower River Niger area
the Federal Executive Council (FEC) awarded a N703m contract for dredging of the turning base of the port
The Buhari administration also announced that it awarded a contract of N10.6 for the construction of road from Gulu to Baro on September last year
approved the award of contract for Agaie-Katcha-Baro road at the cost of N17.5b
The ‘jinxed’ road affecting Baro port
the contract for the construction of the 52.3 kilometre Agaie-Katcha-Baro road has been awarded three times: in 2009
The last award in January 2015 was another possible campaign stunt for the 2015 election a few months away
The Federal Government awarded the contract to pave way for the road for easy access between the port and rest of the hinterland
through the main federal road linking up Baro and Agaie to Bida and Mokwa on the southern plank
and Minna and Lambata on the northern side
which was billed for completion in 12 months when the contract was awarded
Daily Trust on Sunday discovered that the road off Agaie-Bida road has been abandoned by the contractor as there was no sign of workers or any working tool like heavy-duty vehicles
The condition of the road also varied in stages
About half-way from Agaie to Katcha is completed with asphalt overlay and shoulder drains
The second half linking up to Katcha is graded and paved but without the granules needed before asphalting
Cars and other vehicles meander through a turgid terrain in what was more like a bush path – barely any trace is there to suggest that a road once existed there
the area is dotted with water channels and tributaries
yet there is no bridge to help commuters cross the water channels
the communities come together to maintain about five wooden bridges that links the rest of the world
Our reporter traced the offices of the contractor handling the project in search for answers on why the site was abandoned
but no official of the company was willing to talk
The managing director was said to be unavailable at the time
A guard at the gate requested that a note be left for the managing director on the purpose of the visit
The company is yet to get back to Daily Trust on Sunday
“It’s like what we had was a cosmetic commissioning because the port is not functioning at all,” said Mohammed in a voice deep with anger and disappointment
said he saw through this right from the announcement in January 2019
that the president was coming to commission the port at Baro
“The time they chose actually did not give any strong confidence that it was a serious business,” he said
The Secretary to the Government of Niger State
said since the commissioning of the port by President Buhari two years ago
It was gathered that the depth of the Niger River is currently below the minimum draught required for navigation
The dredging was designed to cover 2.5 to three meters initially
a long time of disuse and high rate of siltation has set the clock back on the project
“The issue of drainage has gone back to square one
It is like the money used for the drainage was just misused,” said Baro resident
some portions of the river are covered by sand
such that one can walk from one end to another
Matane said sustainable operation of the Baro port would require holistic dredging of the River Niger
He said that was the only way cargoes could move without hindrance
our reporter saw a fine but deserted structure
with only few security personnel posted to guard the facilities
The expansive compound stood sedentary and lonely by the river bank
The building looked tidy and sparkled from newness
But the first sign of inactivity is the gate rails
The giant gate into the compound was in chains and lock
It was all quite inside the compound but for the occasional breeze from the river and moving wind
an evidence that it was hardly ever activated
Cobwebs and bird nests could be seen inside the generating house
while rodents’ excrete pile up by the perforated building-evidence that other beings other than humans were putting the place to ‘good’ use
The summary of the story of Baro is that of a small village which rose rapidly in significance but suffered a sudden collapse
“Anybody who knew Baro then (before collapse of the port) and came to see it thereafter will shed tears because it became a ghost of itself,” Emir of Agaie said
A visit to the town confirms that the emir was not being hyperbolic
Residents of Baro interviewed by our reporter painted a sordid story of the port and a people who invested hope in the project for both economic and social salvation
said they had expected that the port would pick up so that the mobility challenges in the area would be addressed
the town is currently deserted and visitors are reluctant to visit
even on market days because of the labour required to make the journey
The condition of the connecting roads affect social and commercial activities in the area
Jummai said the sick who needed attention beyond the capacity of the small dispensary in the town suffer a great deal in struggle to access care
“Many lives have been lost in this way,” she added
Residents such as Mohammed had high hopes that the Baro port revival would not only affect the community in terms of direct jobs
but also some other indirect benefits “like constant power supply and good hospital.” He envisioned that “The Federal Government would not put a project like this anywhere without good roads.”
If we see light today it takes even two months before we see it again; and they come to share bills,” said Mohammed
dig wells in their compounds for better and easier access to water
“Poverty level here is very high,” Mohammed said
repeating the last part of the sentence for emphasis
He said some youths in the town were tempted to engage in stealing because “there’s no job to do.” Mohammed is
hopeful that “when the port becomes functional they will get jobs there.”
said lack of access road was hindering the utilisation of the port
“The dredging was done from 2009 to 2012 and has been completed
What hasn’t been done is the complementary aspect of the dredging in the other ports
“The Federal Government has allocated some parts of the construction of the road and the Niger State Government is also pushing in the same road matter,
The port was designed for international standard and it can take whatever it was designed for – barges and others
how can the goods be evacuated to other parts of the North as there’s no access road,’’ he asked
We’re handicapped – Niger government
the Secretary to the Niger State Government
said they were unable to do much to salvage the project because both the port and the road linking it to Agaie belong to the Federal Government
He said the state government was also handicapped in terms of the resources needed to change the lot of the people of the area
Matane said Governor Abubakar Sani Bello was “unwavering” in his call on the Federal Government and other relevant bodies to ensure that the port comes upstream
He said the state government had provided the cooperation required by federal agencies to complete the project
that there was little they could do on their own
He said the state government had a plan of opening the Baro area with the establishment of an industrial park and opening up an area called Empire Hills
added that none of those things could work out without the ports coming alive and the road network that would ease transportation
He countered allegations by some campaigners who accused the state government of not showing enough concern to save the day
He said the administration had engaged the government of South Korea for support regarding rehabilitating the rail network as an alternative means of transportation for movement of goods to and from the port
The prayer of both the Emir of Agaie and residents of Baro interviewed is the completion of this project in their lifetime
“My parents spoke a lot about the Baro port
how it brought wealth and made this place lively and developed
I want to see that happen again,” a 53-year-old Isiyaku said
who visited Baro to assess the state of things
appealed to the Federal Government to ensure that all components are completed and operational before 2023
who led other state legislators and council chairmen to the project site in Baro town
said there was the need to re-dredge the Lower River Niger from Warri to Baro
He also said the Lambata-Bida and Agaie-Katcha-Baro and Baro-Abaji roads
Another appeal they made was for the rehabilitation of the rail line linking Baro to Minna
The chairman of a Minna-based civil society group
said he and his members were almost giving up because their cries to get attention to the abandoned project were not heard
While some concerned persons and residents are expressing despair
We would want to see that this project commissioned by President Buhari becomes fully functional during his time,” he said
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The Baro Chopped Salad Shoppe joins a slew of fast casual eateries at Queen and Spadina. It's a lighter alternative to the fried chicken bao and jarge style burgers that populate the area
Owners John Gaganiaras and Bill Angelopoulos grew up in the business
The Gaganiaras family owned a wholesale produce operation while the Angelopoulos family were in restaurants
Neither felt satisfied with the existing salad options in the city and have set out to introduce this fresh take (already popularized in the U.S) to Toronto
At the crux of the concept are whole ingredients diced to order with a mezzaluna
The idea is that fibrous vegetables just tastes better when diced to smithereens so that every mouthful is thoroughly coated in dressing and brimming with different textures and flavours
Anyone who's ever savoured Jonathan Waxman's confetti'd kale salad at Montecito will understand
and the kale Caesar ($9.20) at Baro isn't a bad alternative for two thirds the price and the convenience
Baro operates primarily as a takeout operation
though there's a rail along the front window and a stepped platform that can informally seat a handful of diners
Ordering happens at the salad assembly line where the menu boasts nine predesigned salads and the option to customize from a choice of four different types of roughage (baby spinach
romaine or spring mix) and almost 50 different ingredients
two dozen dressing and a handful of superfood boosters
a small salad featuring any base and three add-ins starts at $6.50
while the large for $8.50 includes five selections
From the lineup of signature salads I try the Mississippi Flyer ($12.90)
It starts with a base of spring mix and romaine to which Monterey Jack cheese and breaded chicken soaked in hot-sauce are added along with grape tomatoes
While the kale salad was great with an ultra fine chop
the desired coarseness can be specified and this one is better suited to a lighter grade
It gets finished with a toss in spicy ranch dressing and then packaged up in entirely biodegradable containers
The Cobby Blues ($11) features a medley of romaine
The recommended dressing is a buttermilk blue cheese
but I could see it working with ranch or maple chipotle vinaigrette too
As I watch the ingredients poured out onto a chopping block to be minced
the thing that strikes me is how much I appreciate seeing the ingredients start out whole
I'm suspicious and have been previously duped by deli meat or some other processed abomination
Aside from salads you'll find sweet and savoury snacks like protein balls ($2) and panko-crusted goat cheese or avocado balls ($1.90)
Drink-wise there's daily juices ($3.90) like watermelon mint and strawberry basil lemonade
The story of Baro Inland Port epitomises the cycle of unfulfilled potential that has plagued Nigeria’s development
Five years after its commissioning with much fanfare
this $16 million port project in Niger State has been practically abandoned and overtaken by weeds
In the considered opinion of this newspaper
this is unacceptable and demonstrates a lack of consistency
prioritisation and political will when it comes to critical infrastructure projects
Nigeria has no excuse for neglecting viable projects like Baro Port which can spur growth
2019,hopes were high that the port would help transform the economy of Northern Nigeria by enhancing intermodal transportation and connectivity
The port has the capacity for 5000 TEU (twenty-foot equivalent units) and was equipped with modern cargo handling equipment
It was meant to reduce logistics costs for Nigerian businesses by over $300 million annually
The port was constructed by a Chinese firm
CGCC Project Limited at the cost of N5.8 billion
The project is equipped with a quarry length of 150 meters
cargo stacking yard of 7,000 square meters
600 square meters and a capacity of 5,000 TEU at a time
but there are fears the port may go the way of other failed projects and white elephants dotting Nigeria’s landscape
The federal government must realise that the economic benefits of Baro port are now under threat by the delayed take-off
There is every need to revive the Baro port and make it functional
especially at this critical time when the nation is facing a drop in revenue
We must collectively not lose focus of the fact that the Baro port project was designed to enhance intermodal transportation connectivity in Nigeria
It is also meant to reduce the pressure of big trucks on the country’s roads
It has the capacity to create huge economic opportunities for Nigerians and help in decongesting similar ports
will generate nothing less than 4,500 direct and indirect jobs
Although the government has attributed the delayed take-off of Baro Port to the non-completion of the major access roads to the multi-million-naira inland port
it isn’t an impossible task for the government if it is truly committed to the project
More than 13 years since the contract for the 53 kilometer Agaie-Katcha-Baro road which is the major access road to the port was awarded
non-release of funds has remained a major concern
The government must begin to walk the talk and show commitment to the project
Completing the port and making it function optimally is long overdue
There is no gainsaying that the port will impact positively on the Nigeria economy
it will have an impact on the local economy in the state
Jobs will be created and not just for the host community
but for the teaming youths across the country
The opportunity cost of these failures is huge for a country with over 50% poverty rate
Critical projects like Baro Port should be protected from political and policy fluctuations
Making Baro Port in Niger State and other ports on the River Niger
such as the Lokoja and Oguta ports viable for shipment of cargoes within the country
will save Nigeria a whopping N100 billion in freight costs for shippers
No serious government will toy with such a project
Baro Port is regarded as the first settlement of the Governor-General of Nigeria
It was frequently visited by tourists who want to explore the history of colonial Nigeria
the government must do everything possible to make Baro Port operational
The project will also help in reducing the insecurity currently ravaging Niger State and other parts of the North
The state governor and all the National Assembly members from Niger State must rally support for the takeoff of Baro Port
the port’s immense economic potential mandates prompt action
Nigeria’s future prosperity hinges on the ability to translate plans into concrete achievements
Its success will be a major plank in the nation’s drive for economic diversification
But continued neglect will reinforce perceptions of Nigeria as a graveyard of abandoned projects
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Urban Planning and Mobility Area is responsible for providing municipal services linked to the public areas and city services which make life easier for people who live and work in the city.
The City Council seeks to ensure a quality public space
a green and biodiverse city that is productive and resilient
a city committed to active and sustainable mobility with public involvement and commitment
Urban Planning and Mobility Area has different instruments as well as advisory and participatory bodies for effective involvement and collaboration in municipal projects with the general public
The Council sees to the smooth running of the city services
to ensure the daily wellbeing of the public and contribute towards the city's development
The improvement to the Gaudir Més register makes it easy to obtain free daily tickets for Park Güell for anybody registered as living in Barcelona
Nearly 60,000 citizens visit the park free of charge every month
City residents can register in person at Citizen Help and Information Offices with an appointment
users can download a ticket giving free admission to the park without booking
The ticket must be downloaded the same day as the visit
The service is available 365 days a year and is compatible with offers from other participating public and private facilities
Citizens can also access Park Güell for free with the local resident card for those living in the neighbourhoods of La Salut
and with the card for schools in the vicinity
sportspeople and dog-walkers account for 87% of daily visits
The morning and evening time bands set aside exclusively for local people and regular users are being kept: ‘Bon dia
Park Güell opens at 7 am and from then until 9.30 am the morning time band means exclusive access for local people
schools and anybody on the Gaudir Més register
which is when the evening time band starts for exclusive use of these same groups until 10 pm
a series of measures has been designed to reduce the volume of tourists to be borne by the park to a maximum of 4.5 million a year
as well as the parking capacity for coaches
The regulation of access points (some exclusive to local people) has also been increased
revenue reinvested in the surrounding area
such as the recovery of the La Sarva spring
and support given to culture and local education through specific activities and programmes
A Chieftain of the All Progressives Congress
Jonathan Vatsa has accused former Minister of Transport and Presidential aspirant
Rotimi Amaechi of being deceptive on the Baro Port project in the state
Vatsa told journalists in Minna that the guilt and sins of Baro port are chasing Amaechi
which is why he sneaked into Niger State to meet with delegates in the night
The chieftain said if people had known of his coming into Niger State to campaign
a protest would have been organized against him for deceiving President Buhari to commission Baro port when he knew it was not completed
a former Publicity Secretary of the Niger APC said
“why didn’t he come in the broad daylight where we can see him
We had arranged to protest against him and he knew it.”
Amaechi had told Niger State delegates at the government house yesterday
that the contracts for the Minna to Baro seaport and railway have been awarded and even confirmed by the Emir of Minna
Farouk Bahago when he paid the royal father a courtesy visit at his palace before meeting with the delegates.
He also disclosed that approval for the Minna to Abuja rail has been awarded and work will commence by November this year
The presidential hopeful told the delegates
the contract for a rail line to go from Baro to Minna also awarded
The Emir told me that the contractor has visited him to say he wants to start work.”
Vatsa claimed the presidential aspirant was being economical with the truth
saying,”Amaechi’s next name is Mr Deceit
it is now he is vying for President that he is saying they have signed and approved the contract
“I thought they brought President Muhammadu Buhari to commission the Baro port
“He deceived Buhari to commission Baro port when he knew it was uncompleted
That is why the Governor of Sokoto State Aminu Tambuwal said a few days ago that Buhari and the APC led government did Niger state “419” on the port
The former Niger State Commissioner of Information
Culture and Tourism further insisted,” it is a lie
someone who can deceive a whole Buhari to commission an uncompleted warehouse in Baro can deceive anybody
Do you know that Amaechi left Minna airport around 8pm
he should forget his Presidential ambition
but he can’t fool all the people all the time”
why did he sneak and come in at night to see delegates
there is no single vote for him from Niger delegates
He should fix Baro port and rail line before anything because they promised us railway line from Minna to Abuja
till today that has not seen the light of day”
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In a disappointing example of the national malaise
the Baro River Port in Niger State commissioned by former President Muhammadu Buhari on February 19
was executed by a Chinese firm at the cost of N5.8bn
It has a cargo stacking yard of 7,000 square metres
a transit shed of 3,600 square metres and an estimated capacity of 5,000 Twenty-foot Equivalent Unit (TEU) at a time
Spokesman of the National Inland Waterways Authority (NIWA)
explained at the commissioning that the port was fitted with a mobile harbour crane
“It is equipped with facilities such as water hydrant system
100KVA power generating set and three forklifts of various tonnages.”
The port was heavily used during the colonial era
but its fortunes changed about three decades ago
Successive governments expressed interest in bringing it back to life but failed to walk the talk until the dredging of the Lower River Niger was launched by late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua on December 1
The dredging was inaugurated on September 10
former President Goodluck Jonathan declared at an international conference and exhibition organised by NIWA in Lagos that the dredging of the 527km of the Lower River Niger from Warri
President Buhari inaugurated the new Baro River Port
drummed to create some 2,000 direct jobs and many more indirect jobs as part of effort to boost the functionality of the dredged Lower River Niger project
But it seemed that the functionality of the port was programmed for failure
as subsequent events showed that it was a project gone awry in execution
no barge or cargo ship has ever been able to haul goods to and from the port
The non-functionality of the port isn’t surprising because there is still no road network linking it with any federal or state highway
roads from other parts of Niger and Kogi states to Baro are impassable
making it difficult to move goods to and from the port
call for the construction of durable roads leading to the port and rehabilitation of all access roads
especially the deplorable 55km Baro-Katcha-Agaie and the Baro-Muye roads linking Gegu on the Abuja-Lokoja Expressway which have become a nightmare for commuters
The contract for the Baro-Katcha-Agaie road was awarded in 2009
due to alleged failure on the part of the contractor to deliver the job on time
the project was re-awarded a few months to the 2015 general elections to an Indian firm
GR Building and Construction Nigeria Limited
It is time to consider the road as an urgent issue of national importance
We also call for the reactivation of the functional railway network linking Baro with Minna as part of ways to open up the evacuation of goods to and from the port
a standard gauge line put in place by the colonialists to aid the movement of goods to the hinterlands
The rejuvenated railway line needs to be reintegrated into the national rail network as a veritable way to evacuate farm produce and mineral resources to other parts of the country and neigbouring countries
A functional Baro Port will lead to the opening up of communities along the river to vessels
just as it will provide an alternative source of transportation
NIWA should get serious and work with stakeholders to ensure that the port works
This should include the dredging of the Lower River Niger to make it possible for big carriers to berth at the Baro Port
This will serve as backbone for inland navigation and a major highway for trade such that many industrial centres can develop along the banks
tourist landmarks can be developed along the route
We also call on the Niger State Government to execute its planned Baro Smart International Port City
for which it has already acquired 728 square kilometres
The idea of the Baro Port should neither remain a pipe dream nor should the commissioning end up as a rhetorical campaign gimmick
if the waterway from the Lower River Niger leading to the Baro Port is well-dredged
it will have multiplier effects on the national economy and everyone will benefit from it
Warframe sets an industry-wide example when it comes to building a fair free-to-play live service game model
The tradeoff for this availability is the fact that not all the items are readily available
The biggest example of this is Primed Mods
Unlike Prime Warframe and Weapon components
the Primed Mods can only be obtained from Baro Ki'Teer
you can always acquire these items from other players via trade chat
For those who want to play solo or prefer acquiring items from their direct drop sources
almost all of Baro Ki'Teer's merchandise is uniquely accessible only from his inventory
Baro Ki'teer can be found in Strata Relay (Earth)
He will be stationed in the central hub room of this Relay until Sunday (April 20
open up the fast travel wheel by holding down 'Q'
and then click on 'Void Trader' to the left
All items on Baro Ki'Teer can be bought for a combination of Credits and Ducats. Credits can be farmed from many sources in the game
can only be obtained from the Void Trader's Ducat Kiosks located in any Relay
the Ducats can be acquired any time of the week
Ducats can be purchased in exchange for Primed Parts for weapons and frames, obtained by cracking Void Relics from the four eras
The Ducat price for a Primed part is determined only by its rarity in the Relic
here's everything you can get from Baro Ki'teer's inventory in Warframe:
For this week's Baro-exclusive non-cosmetic items
the order of priority for an average player should be:
All of Baro's Primed mods this week are a bit on the niche side; nothing in this stock jumps out as universally useful
In case you're not aware: Buzz Kill is a no-go
You can easily get it from various other sources
and this Primed mod also had a big stat nerf a few years ago — but it's still the way to get the most AoE from area-clear weapons
Primed Ammo Stock may seem like it's very low-impact
this mod is single-handedly the best upgrade you can get for burst DPS
is great on paper for the faction damage double-dip on status weapons
there are not that many Rifle-category primaries you want to use against the Corpus over popular solutions like Cerata
Primed Deadly Efficiency is mathematically the best mod out of this lot
there aren't that many use cases for Archguns or Heavy Weapons
like Primed Steady Hands from two weeks ago
It doesn't really give you that big of an upgrade over the regular one
so only get it if you have everything else
Prisma Angstrum is the only worthwhile Baro weapon for power ceiling
Its Incarnon is not the best among secondaries
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The Void Trader Baro Ki’teer has just arrived in the origin system for his usual visit
Bringing with him new items for Tenno across all platforms
He is located in the Larunda Relay on Mercury
and he will have the items below to purchase in Warframe
He has quite the interesting haul this week
and here is everything you can buy from him:
He will have these same items across all platforms for Warframe
If you are low on Orokin Ducats
If you are low on Credits to afford to purchase any and all of the items from Baro Ki’teer you want
you are left with just one option: Play “The Index” for a multitude of rounds
you can also visit your Mod station to sell duplicate mods for credits
This might not be the best option as you are bound to run out of Mods eventually
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The Void Trader Baro Ki’teer has just arrived in the origin system for his usual visit
He is located in the Strata Relay on Earth and he will have the items below to purchase in Warframe
He has quite a dissapointing haul this week
Sadly you are left with just one option: Play “The Index” for a multitude of rounds
do not forget to do your bi-weekly 10-year anniversary alerts
You can earn a Dex Rhino skin and the Dex Dakra
As well as being able to take full advantage of a double credit booster this weekend
you can farm the index and get even more from it
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The Void Trader Baro Ki’teer has just arrived in the origin system for his usual visit. Bringing with him new items for Tenno across all platforms
He is located in the Orcus Relay on Pluto and he will have the items below to purchase in Warframe
The Void Trader Baro Ki’teer has just arrived in the origin system for his usual visit
He is located in the Lorunda Relay on Mercury and he will have the items below to purchase in Warframe
The Void Trader Baro Ki’teer has just arrived in the origin system for his usual visit
He is located in the Kronia Relay on Saturn and he will have the items below to purchase in Warframe
He has quite a disappointing haul this week
Baro Ki'Teer makes his wares available every second weekend
here are his most recent wares and where he has been found
Baro Ki'Teer is Warframe's biweekly vendor of rare items that players can visit to spend their Orokin Ducats on his wares
he brings a smattering of useful and rare items
and plenty of cosmetics for the fashion-conscious
If you're in the market for some exotic goods, here is everything you need to know about when Baro Ki-Teer will appear in the game
and what his current or most recent inventory was
Baro Ki'Teer was on the concourse of the Kronia Relay at Saturn
He appears on Fridays at 6 AM PT/9 AM ET/ 2 PM GMT
If you want to be precisely sure when he will arrive in your time zone
you can visit the Ducat Kiosk in any of the Relays to see a countdown timer to his next arrival
this will change to a timer for how long he will remain
Baro Ki'Teer brings a different inventory of items for you to purchase
His most recent offerings were as follows:
You can check any of the Ducat Kiosks to find out when he is set to appear next
you can see an icon on the Star Chart showing his upcoming arrival 24 hours before he is set to appear
an automated message is sent to every player from Baro Ki'Teer when he becomes available
There are plenty of ways to keep track of when Baro is going to show up
You can even query the game about his status by sending "when baro" in the chat
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There’s really only one place where you can get Orokin Ducats in Warframe — the Ducat Kiosks in relays Baro visits every two weeks
and you can also find the Ducat Kiosks there near the spot where Baro appears
Baro will send an email to your inbox whenever he visits
though you don’t have to wait for him to access those Ducat Kiosks
As for what to exchange Orokin Ducats with
You’re practically selling Prime Parts in exchange for Orokin Ducats
you have to farm Prime Parts if you want Orokin Ducats
We have two methods for farming Prime Parts for Ducats
you can just farm the Prime Parts to sell for Ducats
Do be wary of what you sell for Ducats in the Kiosks
as some Prime Parts (such as the rare blueprints for Prime Warframes) can be worth more in Platinum or if you want to craft that Warframe or weapon
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Our cities are ever-evolving and full of exciting
This special day honours Mexican heritage annually on the fifth of May and there are plenty of ways to celebrate in the city
Get ready for a day of fun – here’s where to celebrate Cinco de May in Toronto
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This Latin club in Toronto is celebrating Cinco de Mayo with DJs directly from Mexico plus some cool giveaways and “surprises.”
When: Friday, May 3rd from 10:00 PM – 2:00 AM Where: Nuvo, 4749 Keele St Cost: Free before 11:30 PM (ladies) or $22.63 per ticket
SPIN is hosting a Cinco de Mayo bash you won’t want to miss out on
The festivities include a free Tromba Shot to kick off the day
Tickets are $10 and can be purchased here
May 4th from 4:00 PM – late Where: SPIN Toronto
The Pint is getting the celebrations going nice and early with a Cinco de Mayo brunch
complementary tequila samplings and great live entertainment including a live mariachi band
Grab tickets here
May 5th from 12:00 PM – 5:00 PM Where: The Pint Public House
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This popular downtown bar and restaurant is hosting a two-in-one event for Cinco de Mayo
but it will also be opening its rooftop patio for the first time this season on May 5th
Get ready to fiesta as the patio opens at 3:00 PM
Barrio is on the east end of Queen Street and will be serving up its classic Mexican dishes and feature a live Mariachi band on Cinco de Mayo
Book your reservation here and get ready to enjoy the tastes and sounds of Mexico
This beloved authentic Mexican food restaurant in Toronto’s Distillery District is the perfect place to celebrate Cinco de May as they host their annual celebration
The celebrations are going on for three days
Cinco de Mayo drink features and a DJ spinning on deck
Reserve your spot here
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Netizens were shocked by recent pictures that revealed just how close B1A4‘s Baro and his sister I (Cha Yoon Ji) really are
Dispatch released photos that showed how close the siblings were by spending a day with Baro and his sister
The photos shared heartwarming moments such as an adorable photo of Baro feeding his younger sister spicy rice cakes
Baro is feeding his younger sister spicy rice cakes
After seeing photos of Baro and I taking photos together doing things such as eating
netizens discussed how impossibly close the two seemed
the two did look like they genuinely care for each other and have a great relationship
Most of the comments made on the original article agreed that most siblings aren’t this comfortable together
They were so cute when they were both babies
“It’s a fail ever since they decided eating out together”
“If my oppa is Baro then I believe it’s possible”
“If I saw that from across the street I would probably throw up..If he has the face of the guy in the photo then it’s possible
I imagined my own older brother’s face on him and now I really feel like throwing up ㅋㅋㅋ”
Source: Dispatch and Pann