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The next Woman to Watch at UA Little Rock of 2024 is Dr
Tell us about yourself and your background
where I got my bachelor’s and two master’s degrees
one in Polish Studies and one in American Studies
one of my MA advisors encouraged me to apply to a Ph.D
I didn’t even know where to start but my professor was very supportive
That’s how I ended up at the University at Buffalo (UB)
I studied both American and Polish history
While working on my doctorate in American Studies
I was a graduate assistant in the Polish Studies Program for three years
Being able and encouraged to study both helped me develop a transnational perspective on the history of both regions
I wrote my dissertation on the migration of Polish peasants to the US after the abolition of slavery in the US
which means different things for different scholars
it’s studying connections between the US and Poland
What is your current position and professional duties at UA Little Rock
I serve as director of UA Little Rock Downtown
UA Little Rock Downtown is a community engagement unit of our university
and I’m responsible for all aspects of our operations
I organize and coordinate events and programs that aim to connect the University with the community
UA Little Rock Downtown is also home to a mural that Joe Jones
The college was an experimental educational institution that trained labor leaders
One of the most interesting aspects of my job is to co-serve as a steward of the mural by researching its history
I wouldn’t be able to do what I do every day without another UA Little Rock woman
our programming and administrative assistant
who is a graduate of the UA Little Rock Public History program
What brought you to UA Little Rock
I started applying for open positions but also contacting various institutions that I thought might use people with my credentials
One of them was the Department of History at UA Little Rock
who was at the time chair of the history department
responded politely that they didn’t need anyone
he called me to ask if I would be interested in teaching as an adjunct professor
because I was already doing contract-based jobs and needed something more stable
he said their Eastern European history professor had just resigned to take a different job
That meant the department was now looking for a full-time visiting assistant professor
He encouraged me to apply and I got the job
One year turned into a recurrent position and in January last year
I still occasionally teach at the History Department and feel lucky I can remain connected to teaching and our students
What are some of the exciting projects that you are working on at UA Little Rock
Our biggest project at UA Little Rock Downtown right now is an exhibit titled “Slavery and Freedom: Journeys Across Time and Space.” It examines the history of modern slavery from a comparative perspective
The inspiration for it is a traveling exhibit
“The Surprising Story of Furcy Madeleine,” created by the Musée Villèle
The exhibit explores the life of Furcy Madeleine
an enslaved man who in 1817 launched his freedom suit in the French colony of Isle Bourbon (today’s Réunion)
“Slavery and Freedom” will build upon Madeleine’s story
It will feature panels from the Réunion exhibit and original panels that will add a comparative context of slavery and freedom in Arkansas
The original panels will focus on the story of Abby Guy
who lived as a free person until a man named William Daniel enslaved her
launched her freedom suit in Arkansas in 1855
We received a grant from the Arkansas Humanities Council to fund this project and the exhibit should open to the public starting on May 3
we will host a panel on the current state of affairs in Ukraine
in light of the second anniversary of the Russian invasion
Another event we’re planning is a storytelling workshop that will take place on April 27
which we’re working on in partnership with the Central Arkansas Library System (CALS)
is part of a Big Read series inspired by Tommy Orange’s book “There There” that CALS is coordinating
We’re also working with social studies and art educators to develop lesson plans around the Joe Jones mural that we will make available to teachers
I’m scheduled to teach a course on the Holocaust at UA Little Rock Downtown
it will include a community engagement component
and I agreed it’s important we offer this course right now
when once again we’re seeing surveys suggesting shockingly limited knowledge of Holocaust history among American students
What woman has inspired you the most and why
She finished five grades of elementary school and spent most of her life working as a small-scale farmer
Her experience was quite typical for an Eastern European peasant woman whose life spanned through most of the 20th century
She loved reciting poems in public and she knew many by heart
she once went for a walk to the woods that was around a mile away from her house
She decided she was too tired to walk back home so she slept in the woods and walked back in the morning
My grandma lived through two world wars and many personal struggles and labored very hard
And she always appreciated whatever she could in life
I aspire to develop that kind of gratitude
And to have the courage to break into poetry in public without worrying what others will think
What advice would you give to the next generation of female leaders
Surround yourself with people from whom you can learn
and empathetic individuals will be your greatest network
whether in your professional or personal life
and you would be surprised how many people would be willing to support you
Don’t ever be afraid to ask for help or advice
One of the greatest things about UA Little Rock is the program for students over 60 years of age
These students are typically retired professionals
And they bring the wealth of knowledge and experience
This is to say that your mentor may be sitting next to you in your class right now if you are a UA Little Rock student
These life-long learners are retired nurses
Some are women who had successful careers in male-dominated fields
Name something about yourself that most people would be surprised to learn
It’s a long story but when I was young and making decisions about my future
teaching repeatedly presented itself as a career path
I took my first teaching job because I needed to pay my bills
I had no license or experience but the shortage of teachers was so acute
and I’m grateful for all the growth opportunities but I will always consider myself a teacher first
but one quote from my favorite historical figure
resonates with me: “We will be victorious if we have not forgotten how to learn.” But the truth is I don’t walk around quoting great East Central European thinkers and revolutionaries
Much more often I quote Arrested Development
“They don’t allow you to have bees in here.”
UA Little Rock is a metropolitan research university in the South that provides accessibility to a quality education through flexible learning and unparalleled internship opportunities
A Polish prison in the town of Leczyca is on the market
Formerly a monastery during the Spanish Inquisition
the prison would later house notorious criminals and political prisoners
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what do you know about his physical appearance
… He loved candies and had a habit of buying sweets and bringing them to people and also buying flowers
He actually did three lines of study at the same time: He studied journalism
and he knew that I would be living in a country where only Jews are circumcised
two years before the war -- not to have a sign of Jewishness
I am probably sitting here because of that -- not being circumcised
what sort of memories do you have of your father
… Being in the child carriage and being carried by somebody very fast
almost running through the street of Warsaw
and hearing the alarm of sirens and also in our courtyard in our room had to cover the windows when the German planes were coming
The janitor would look around the windows and would remind everybody to put the stores on
But of course you don't know who is killing who at this age
… It's mainly the feeling of bodies and legs and shoes and Germans and dogs and shouts -- it's really very fragmented -- and the hours and waiting and waiting and fear and fear
and I knew that it will be the moment of joy in the house
The anticipation of danger -- that's what I learned
my way of being safe and secure was holding her ear
and that was at times extremely annoying to my mother
But I remember this ear of my mother ever since I remember -- and certainly during the ghetto in the worst times
That was my sense of safety was when I could hold her ear
My grandfather -- my father's father's name was Moshe
Mordechai Kushner -- and he was a dentist in the shtetl or town of Leczyca
He was educated in the medical school in Saratov
My grandfather was killed almost the day the Germans invaded Leczyca
and they point out that he was the wealthy Jew who has gold
and his wife died of a heart attack in two weeks
They were the very first casualty of the Holocaust
… Probably at the age of four or maybe three
and in order to cut here without anesthetics
about ten people or more with my family hold me
I got a reputation of a totally uncontrollable child
My scream was such that everybody was certain that this child
we'll never be able to save or to be silent
had this passport for life for his immediate family
In the beginning it included the large family
my grandmother was taken to Umschlagplatz from where they were taken to concentration camp
And my great-grandmother went actually mad almost after that
The next day she left the apartment and went herself and asked the German to be sent to the concentration camp
That's how my grandmother and great-grandmother were killed during those blockades when we were saved
Then the sister of my uncle with a little child
… My father was told by the German owner that actually in the next few days there would be a blockade
and all children will be taken to the concentration camp -- all
Then the decision was made of smuggling me
sending me out to the Christian side of Warsaw
… My father and my mother were coaching me almost as a soldier because they knew that I had to
"You will survive if you keep your mouth shut
you will never tell anybody that you are a Jew." …
… The plan was that a woman who is professionally smuggling children will come to my house and take me with her
… She had some arrangements with some Germans at the gate of the ghetto who would pretend that they are not noticing her
because she carried a lot of children with her
it was not that dangerous as for the Jewish grownups leaving the ghetto
I know one thing that this woman was given by my mother three gold watches
but I know that they were mainly for people that will be blackmailing her after she leaves the ghetto
then we were stopped by a small group of people
And those people were blackmailing us to bring us to Gestapo
and this woman was told that she is carrying a Jewish child
And this woman's routine was always the same
and she did this at this time: She called the Polish police -- Granatowy -- policeman
navy blue policemen is what they were called
and the only way for them to make money is to arrest us
and then the scene of me being a terrible screaming child was repeated again
and this woman was holding my hand and my mouth
and I was screaming: "I want to go back to ghetto
I want to go to mommy," those were the words
and at the police station we were put in the jail
but the woman contacted the head of the station who knew that one of the watches would be for him
The first one was for the one who brought us
And he would keep us in the jail 'til the end of the day
and that is what I remember -- sitting among the prostitutes and the people that were loud
And I also remember that they were giving me a piece of bread with sugar -- that's what we call the sugar sandwich
The sugar sandwich was the biggest delicacy for a child at this time
so I had a very good treatment in this jail
… The story of my mother leaving the ghetto was much more dramatic
because my uncle was in charge of solving the situation
decided to solve the situation of being blackmailed
by directly posing as a Gestapo agent himself
by actually threatening the blackmailers that he will make them arrested by the Gestapo for criminal activity
… I had to be somebody else now; I had to have a Catholic birth certificate
and during these few days or maybe weeks when we were in this house
and then my mother and I kneeled on the floor
and the reason was that this way we could obtain false papers
that there is no way that the two of us can survive together
that we have to go completely different paths
And during this time there were attempts to place me in many
Altogether I was in the hands of 17 families
that poor people that could not support themselves actually treated hiding Jews as a business
or my mother has from my grandfather the dentist a little sack with the gold and platinum teeth
and in some cases she would be paying with those teeth
… It became so difficult that at one point I was on the balcony
and I saw someone walking and saying "dirty Jew." And then I talked back to him: "I am a Jew
and that's what takes me to the ghetto." I broke my conspiracy
immediately we have to leave their apartment because the danger of Gestapo coming and taking all of us was too big
… And the way to save me is that I would have to be abandoned on the street of Warsaw in order to lose completely my identity
whoever will find me will treat me as an abandoned Polish orphan
And they were able to contact a man who was in charge of the organization that runs several orphanages in Poland and had an office
and there was a courtyard in the front of this office
And the idea was that the man who was in charge of this office will be in cahoots with this operation and will know the child will be left
will be picked up by one of his employees there and will be taken to the office then placed in an orphanage
and he will know in which orphanage I will be placed
… And that's what she did; she brought me to this courtyard of this building
She put a cardboard around my neck: "My name is Marys [this is the diminutive of Marian]
My parents are dead." She gave me this brown bag with this sugar sandwich -- another sugar sandwich
And she left me in the middle of this courtyard and said
This is the only way that you will be alive
Somebody will come to you and will be with you
… How long did you stay there before someone --
I remember somebody approached me very soon
And I remember that I was suddenly in a basement in the company of small children and a woman and a man
He was a janitor of the building; he was the one that noticed me first
Before anyone from the organization would notice me
and because I disappeared from the view from the courtyard
then obviously the people working there could never -- they didn't notice any child in the courtyard
because it probably took no time for the janitor to take me
So when my mother learned that no child was found in the courtyard
my mother was absolutely sure that the operation failed completely
… And the first thing I remember is that the man smells heavy like alcohol
Then I remember continuous fights between his wife and him
And I remember being sandwiched between him and his wife
I can only rationalize after all the years that the way that I looked
that I was his dream child that he didn't have there
so good I started slowly -- not telling him that I am a Jew
I never told him this -- I told him that I had family in Warsaw
and I was telling stories that the children sometimes tell: I am from wealthy family; I have a lot of family; I was here and there
I knew that I can tell him this but not the other thing
So the idea was that he somehow thought I was lost
"My mother brought me here." "Where is your mother?" "I don't know where my mother is
but I know some of the people that I was with." And I gave him the first address
it happened to be the house of my uncle's brother
And in one Sunday he was able to go with me and knock the door
"Do you know this boy?" And the uncle said
"I don't know this boy." And I was not sure at this time
The idea was that it was too dangerous for the uncle to take me
I told him that I also remember another house
and this house is an apartment of a priest
You can leave him here." And he left me there
And what I learned later was that she had witnessed a miracle in the church
"You must rescue a little child." And ever since
she thought that she made a big mistake of returning me
and at this point I had my papers with me already
she asked the priest if it would be okay with him
… I remember being all the time with the maid in the maid room
but I also remember being on the street this time and walking with her
and I remember running in the tramway one time
and encountering a German officer that would put me on his knees
… One of the things that I imitated from the priest and from going to church was the signs of the cross which was like a blessing
And I remember standing on the floor of Krakowskie Prezedmiescie behind the curtains
seeing the cars and people and Germans walking and knowing this is the world that is dangerous to me
and I would do that -- I would be blessing this person to make miracles
And in a sense I started to behave like a priest
And this kind of priesthood which I put my mind in would gave me a power and safety and security
… At one point I was taken by the maid 25 kilometers from Warsaw to an orphanage that was run by the priest who was [a member of] the brothers of the order called Orione
We saw smoke over the sky of Warsaw; we were only 20 kilometers [away]
And I recall peasants and other people gathering there and saying zydki sie pala
"the Jews are burning." And that moment when I acknowledge that they were talking about the Jews
and then I had the moment of realizing that my father was there
… I remember being shown naked to some of the brothers because there was always this entry for me
this assurance to this establishment that in case the Germans come
I was already baptized before with my mother
Then I passed wonderfully the exam to be the alter boy
and knowing in Latin absolutely the whole text of the ritual of serving the mass
which included assisting the church in pouring the water and the wine
And the chapel was used whenever Germans were around
probably buying some goods or being around
I was always taken by one of the brothers to the chapel
either by serving the mass or sometimes behind the alter
… I went to Warsaw one time to the big cathedral and was brought to a ceremony of the benediction of the new catholic priest
And it's done in an extremely theatrical way: When the candidates for priesthood are in the white robes
and they lay on the floor like cross for a long a time
that was the time when I decided that I will be a priest
suddenly we see the German troops coming to the orphanage
We were told by the priests and the sisters that they are losing the war
… My mother doesn't know exactly where I am
but for some reason she cannot get in touch with the priest
actually going to first one or two wrong places where I was not there
I was kneeling in the dining room above the table in my old fur coat from before the war
I don't know who you are." "I am your mother." I said
I don't kow who you are." And then she starts to tell me about what I remember from the past
and she mentioned one name which is Ciocia Frania -- the aunt
"I remember Ciocia Frania." "You see Ciocia Frania," -- the aunt -- "is my sister
I would like to take you to Warsaw to live with me." …
I think the recognition of my mother came through touching her ear
And we went together to a bus or train station
or maybe we went all through Warsaw in the horse wagon
How did you find out about the immediate causes of the events that lead to his death
Could you tell us a bit about that -- we are going ahead -- but could you tell us what your mother told you
and having this so-called passport for life
being able to survive longer than anybody else
It is not clear to me if he left the ghetto before or after the insurrections of the Warsaw ghetto
but it is certain he was taken on one of the last transports from the ghetto
and he was taken to the concentration camp of Majdanek near Lublin
cut the hole in the floor of the wagon and then they jumped
… He joined the partisans and met my mother two times actually in the little barn or the little shack there
when my mother left him for the last time and heard the shots in the train
everybody was telling around that the Ukrainian units of the German army were penetrating forests and would kill partisans -- were actually surrounding the forest